Districts that have suspended summer workouts

[bigdog2003]

I hope i am wrong but i got a sinking feeling
that by Nov. our country is going to be in
complete confusion and turmoil with sick
people everywhere and protest,looting and
killing like we have never seen.

i don't see killing, but the rest is probably spot on............NOTHING is going to improve and NO FOOTBALL will be played in S.C. until we start wearing masks and shut down the sale of all on premise alcohol............who knows when that will happen............we had 1,750 new cases today..........and it is NOT from testing..........it's from disease..........

What does alcohol sales have to do with the virus?

On premise alcohol sales............bars...........these people in them are reckless and throw all caution under the bus...........many states are closing them down........it's a big problem........drunks are always a big problem...........

Why not just close everything, stores, workplaces, tell people they have to stay inside their houses for the next 14 days and cannot leave for any reason. I mean, we have to stop the spread right?

Unless the entire world completely locked down and literally did NOTHING for 21 days, the virus will always pop back up until herd immunity is achieved (either through a vaccine or by enough people building up immunity by "getting the virus").
That is the thing all of those in charge fail to say to the world..."LOOK, it is always going to be here...no matter how long we close down, as soon as we open back up, it returns (short of waiting for a working vaccine that 100% of the population takes). Keep in mind, even the BEST vaccines only work 80% of the time. So if only 40% of people get the vaccine (which is what is predicted) and it works 80% of the time, that leaves roughly 68% of the population that will need "herd immunity".
All sheltering does is lengthen the time the virus is present. It won't eliminate the virus.

Oh, I know its not going away. This entire situation is a joke. I wonder how much it would cost to just get everybody a bubble to stay in so we can move on.

[Fortfor5]

I hope i am wrong but i got a sinking feeling
that by Nov. our country is going to be in
complete confusion and turmoil with sick
people everywhere and protest,looting and
killing like we have never seen.

i don't see killing, but the rest is probably spot on............NOTHING is going to improve and NO FOOTBALL will be played in S.C. until we start wearing masks and shut down the sale of all on premise alcohol............who knows when that will happen............we had 1,750 new cases today..........and it is NOT from testing..........it's from disease..........

What does alcohol sales have to do with the virus?

On premise alcohol sales............bars...........these people in them are reckless and throw all caution under the bus...........many states are closing them down........it's a big problem........drunks are always a big problem...........

“The prevalence of immunity to the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 may be much higher than previous research suggests according to an intriguing new study by researchers associated with Karolinska Institute in Sweden,” Reason magazine reported. “In addition, a new German study by researchers associated with the University Hospital Tübingen in Germany reports that people who have been previously infected with versions of the coronavirus that cause the common cold also have some immunity to the COVID-19 virus. If these reports stand up to further scrutiny, it would be very good news because they suggest that the pandemic could be over sooner and ultimately be less lethal than feared.”


Lets see what this holds .now ots the drunks wholly batskit.

I can see you now .4 year old flips trycicle on your lawn.
GET OFF MY LAWN SCUMBAG DEGENERATE lmao.

Oh slicker i aint the one with issues bro...

[Penguin]

Herd immunity for Covid-19 is a very problematic solution. Here is what the Mayo Clinic says about it:

"Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions."

Asking for literally "millions" of people to die so that Billy Bob can play Football is a ridiculous proposition. Seeing as there will be no vaccine before 2021 at the earliest, it would be best for ALL concerned, that ALL sports at ALL levels be suspended. Common sense has to come into play with this. Even our lusterous guvernator is starting to see the light. C'mon people, let's do everything that we can to slow this virus down. If not for your own good, for the good of the country.

[Fortfor5]

Herd immunity for Covid-19 is a very problematic solution. Here is what the Mayo Clinic says about it:

"Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions."

Asking for literally "millions" of people to die so that Billy Bob can play Football is a ridiculous proposition. Seeing as there will be no vaccine before 2021 at the earliest, it would be best for ALL concerned, that ALL sports at ALL levels be suspended. Common sense has to come into play with this. Even our lusterous guvernator is starting to see the light. C'mon people, let's do everything that we can to slow this virus down. If not for your own good, for the good of the country.

the pace its at now is fine .not overwhelming hospitals.
58%to 70 % so 200million have to be infected not die.
It is suspected that up to 22million already have it .
If the average death rate as they say is 1 in around 19million. Then 10 to15 is a low number .
Cant depend on a vaccine that may never come.
Heard immunity at the fastest pace thats manageable.
You know for the good of the country.

[Penguin]

70%, roughly 200 million would have to "recover" from it. Those who die won't help with herd immunity. That is not an option that any sane person would consider as an option. At 5% mortality rate, which is where we are, that is 10 million deaths.

[Fortfor5]

70%, roughly 200 million would have to "recover" from it. Those who die won't help with herd immunity. That is not an option that any sane person would consider as an option. At 5% mortality rate, which is where we are, that is 10 million deaths.

COVID-19 cases are up.

But have you seen the other news? Deaths from the virus are down — way down.

On June 27, there were 623 deaths attributed to COVID-19, according to OurWorldInData.com. Two days later, the death toll in the U.S. was 265.

By comparison, 4,928 people died in the U.S. on the peak day, April 16. Deaths have been declining steadily, at least until June 26, when the toll reached 2,437 (the website notes that “some states added probable deaths” on that date). The deaths rose again to 1,270 on Tuesday, but at least one COVID watchdog said there was again a reason for that rise.

“That ‘spike’ yesterday includes more than 600 backdated NYC cases, most from three weeks or more ago. In reality deaths dropped again week over week (about 25%),” Alex Berenson, a former New York Times reporter who has been on the forefront of covering the virus, wrote on Twitter.

Deaths are dropping daily the evidence is irrefutable.
Numbers dont lie.
We will not lose 10 million .

The WHO further stated that older people are at highest risk: over 95% of deaths occurred in those > 60 years. More than 50% of all deaths were people > 80 years or older.

Ok lockdown the older crowd so the rest of us can live.
You know for the good of the country.....

[Fortfor5]

Further more this barely qualified as a pandemic.

In a pandemic, the proportion of deaths among the young should increase (See here and here), and several studies have further demonstrated this age shift in deaths to younger populations. In a 1918 scenario, the major prevention strategies are to target younger people to minimize the loss to expected years of life. An analysis of three other pandemics over the last century also suggests pandemic viruses cause excess mortality in ‘unusually young populations.’

COVID-19

An analysis of countries and US states or major cities with at least 250 COVID-19 deaths as of 4th April reports that individuals aged <65 accounts for less than 10% of all COVID-19 deaths.

People <65 years old had 34- to 73-fold lower risk than those ≥65 years old in the European countries
People aged < 65 had 13- to 15-fold lower risk in New York City, Louisiana and Michigan.
The WHO further stated that older people are at highest risk: over 95% of deaths occurred in those > 60 years. More than 50% of all deaths were people > 80 years or older.

Conclusion

The data support the theory that the current epidemic is a late seasonal effect in the Northern Hemisphere on the back of a mild ILI season. The age structure of those most affected does not fit the evidence from previous pandemics.

The outbreak does, however, fit with the WHO’s definition of a Pandemic. This definition does not help explain the age structure of those most affected, and how this differs from that of seasonal outbreaks. The definition of a pandemic remains elusive.

[CITYSLICKER]

YOU FORT FART, YOU AINT LOCKING IN , I GOT TO ROAM

[Fortfor5]

YOU FORT FART, YOU AINT LOCKING IN , I GOT TO ROAM

I know it was sarcasm.
Had ti make a point.

[FootballFan4343]

70%, roughly 200 million would have to "recover" from it. Those who die won't help with herd immunity. That is not an option that any sane person would consider as an option. At 5% mortality rate, which is where we are, that is 10 million deaths.

Not to jump back in this argument, but it is pretty common belief that we have at least 10 times the amount of cases as our "confirmed positives". So if thats the case, that means we currently have had (at least) 27,400,000 people in the US with the disease. When you divide that by the 127,000 deaths the death rate comes out to be .46%. Of course that is assuming that all 127,000 deaths are due to COVID-19. But we know that those numbers are skewed all over the place, depending on the hospital system. We have had reports, all over the country, of people dying from heart attacks having COVID listed as cause of death because they were found to be positive or have antibodies in their system.
Before anybody jumps on here and claims that doesn't happen, we all need to "get real". Hospitals are BIG BUSINESS. These businesses are struggling mightily and laying off nurses/staff all over the place due to "empty hospitals."
For some perspective, hospitals normally operate at 90% of capacity or so during this time of the year. South Carolina has roughly 14,000 acute hospital beds around the state, so that means most years we have over 12,600 in hospital beds during this time of the year. As of yesterday, we have roughly 7,100 in hospital beds and we are only operating a total of 11,000 beds (3,000 beds are "closed" due to staff reductions and furloughs). The reason this is important is due to the CARES Act, hospitals get a significant pay difference in a COVID death versus a heart attack. So hospitals which are literally struggling to pay their bills due to the huge decrease in patients, are listing COVID as cause of death if the person was found to have COVID or antibodies. Our nation has seen a huge decrease in heart attacks and strokes over the last 4 months. Do we really think that is happening? During one of the most stressful times of the last century, heart attacks and strokes are declining? Lets use common sense on this one.

At the end of the day, we can all quote stats all day to support our "bias". Penguin can state a 5% mortality rate, but ignore the fact that the same doctors state we have at least 10 times the amount of cases as we have confirmed. I then can counter that by talking about hospital beds to "downplay" the virus, so to speak.

The reality is this virus (just like any without a working vaccine) is dangerous. But, at the end of the day, we have to take precautions to prevent spread, but CANNOT lock down our world. As we continue to see, no matter how long we "lock down", as soon as we open up the virus spreads. This we know, as fact. Short of locking COMPLETELY down until we have a workable vaccine that 100% of the population will take (which we know will NEVER happen) then the virus will not be stopped and can only be slowed down.