Goliath vs David??

[footballenjoyer16]

MVP is the Kevin Durant of SC hs football. Bet you think LeBron is better than Jordan too. Just wish BHP had the NIL program that MVP does to even the playing field.

LeBron is absolutely better than Michael Jordan but I’m not sure how this pertains to the discussion at hand

[footballenjoyer16]

MVP is a public charter, free-tuition school. How do you think they're getting these players? It's because the players are choosing to play there. Not through scholarship, or having money thrown at them, or coaches knocking on their doors, it's because the kids saw an opportunity to succeed on the football field and decided to go play together. Every kid in South Carolina had that choice. No one gets upset when a player from Greer transfers to Byrnes, or a player from Blacksburg transfers to Gaffney, but when a player from Blue Ridge or Broome or Dorman transfers to MVP, now it's a problem. MVP did not obtain any of these players any worse than how Spartanburg and the other 5A schools obtain their transfers. Grey Ramsey is a well-known coach in the upstate and brought many more well-known coaches with him, the players coming to play for them was inevitable.

And for education, I know many kids at MVP and they're getting great education. There is a duel-enrollment program set up with Spartanburg Community College to help the kids graduate with their associates degree. They have great teachers and administration just like every other SCHSL school surrounding them. Sounds like a good gig to me.

MVP is definitely school, or the SCHSL wouldn't have sanctioned them. The coaches look out for the players and have the players' best interest in mind. If other coaches in the upstate are so upset at their players leaving their programs, they should look within and see why the players are leaving instead of bashing MVP for doing nothing wrong.

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Multiple players have gotten more visibility and received more college offers since going to MVP. I guess you don't follow high school recruiting or don't care enough to look at what you're saying first. These kids left and went to MVP because they wanted to have a better chance at getting recruited and having success on the field. And that's exactly what's happening. Sorry you don't like players having the chance to better themselves and their careers.

[FootballFan59]

MVP is a public charter, free-tuition school. How do you think they're getting these players? It's because the players are choosing to play there. Not through scholarship, or having money thrown at them, or coaches knocking on their doors, it's because the kids saw an opportunity to succeed on the football field and decided to go play together. Every kid in South Carolina had that choice. No one gets upset when a player from Greer transfers to Byrnes, or a player from Blacksburg transfers to Gaffney, but when a player from Blue Ridge or Broome or Dorman transfers to MVP, now it's a problem. MVP did not obtain any of these players any worse than how Spartanburg and the other 5A schools obtain their transfers. Grey Ramsey is a well-known coach in the upstate and brought many more well-known coaches with him, the players coming to play for them was inevitable.

And for education, I know many kids at MVP and they're getting great education. There is a duel-enrollment program set up with Spartanburg Community College to help the kids graduate with their associates degree. They have great teachers and administration just like every other SCHSL school surrounding them. Sounds like a good gig to me.

MVP is definitely school, or the SCHSL wouldn't have sanctioned them. The coaches look out for the players and have the players' best interest in mind. If other coaches in the upstate are so upset at their players leaving their programs, they should look within and see why the players are leaving instead of bashing MVP for doing nothing wrong.

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Just curious – where do you think MVP‘s coaches came from?

I know where they came from, that's a whole different conversation. But by asking that you are implying that yes these coaches that were at previous programs recruited their players to a new school to create an "Allstar team" from the programs they came from. Why do you think a coach from a traditional high school would choose to go to a charter school?

[ThaDirtyO]

MVP is the Kevin Durant of SC hs football. Bet you think LeBron is better than Jordan too. Just wish BHP had the NIL program that MVP does to even the playing field.

LeBron is absolutely better than Michael Jordan but I’m not sure how this pertains to the discussion at hand

It’s apparent you have the idea that the shiny new thing is better. I suppose that’s how you sleep at night. These communities and teams that have done it the right way forever are the ones who suffer the most in this. I don’t fault the kids for wanting to go be winners, but it squarely lies on the shoulders of those guiding, or should I say misguiding them. And to address your previous post, with Hudl, literally everyone is visible. Did you know there is a D1 prospect at Thomas Heyward Academy in Ridgeville? I did, thanks to Hudl.

[FootballFan59]

MVP is a public charter, free-tuition school. How do you think they're getting these players? It's because the players are choosing to play there. Not through scholarship, or having money thrown at them, or coaches knocking on their doors, it's because the kids saw an opportunity to succeed on the football field and decided to go play together. Every kid in South Carolina had that choice. No one gets upset when a player from Greer transfers to Byrnes, or a player from Blacksburg transfers to Gaffney, but when a player from Blue Ridge or Broome or Dorman transfers to MVP, now it's a problem. MVP did not obtain any of these players any worse than how Spartanburg and the other 5A schools obtain their transfers. Grey Ramsey is a well-known coach in the upstate and brought many more well-known coaches with him, the players coming to play for them was inevitable.

And for education, I know many kids at MVP and they're getting great education. There is a duel-enrollment program set up with Spartanburg Community College to help the kids graduate with their associates degree. They have great teachers and administration just like every other SCHSL school surrounding them. Sounds like a good gig to me.

MVP is definitely school, or the SCHSL wouldn't have sanctioned them. The coaches look out for the players and have the players' best interest in mind. If other coaches in the upstate are so upset at their players leaving their programs, they should look within and see why the players are leaving instead of bashing MVP for doing nothing wrong.

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Multiple players have gotten more visibility and received more college offers since going to MVP. I guess you don't follow high school recruiting or don't care enough to look at what you're saying first. These kids left and went to MVP because they wanted to have a better chance at getting recruited and having success on the field. And that's exactly what's happening. Sorry you don't like players having the chance to better themselves and their careers.

That is a joke, you really believe that they were not getting recruited before they were at MVP? Try to flip it to I do not care, you have no idea who I am and what I do. But you still try to deflect and not answer any of the other points about how MVP is not like traditional high schools and why they should not compete for the same titles because of this. But that is okay you can make your choice but to try and say they are the same as traditional high schools and they are on the same playing field is just not true.

[footballenjoyer16]

MVP is a public charter, free-tuition school. How do you think they're getting these players? It's because the players are choosing to play there. Not through scholarship, or having money thrown at them, or coaches knocking on their doors, it's because the kids saw an opportunity to succeed on the football field and decided to go play together. Every kid in South Carolina had that choice. No one gets upset when a player from Greer transfers to Byrnes, or a player from Blacksburg transfers to Gaffney, but when a player from Blue Ridge or Broome or Dorman transfers to MVP, now it's a problem. MVP did not obtain any of these players any worse than how Spartanburg and the other 5A schools obtain their transfers. Grey Ramsey is a well-known coach in the upstate and brought many more well-known coaches with him, the players coming to play for them was inevitable.

And for education, I know many kids at MVP and they're getting great education. There is a duel-enrollment program set up with Spartanburg Community College to help the kids graduate with their associates degree. They have great teachers and administration just like every other SCHSL school surrounding them. Sounds like a good gig to me.

MVP is definitely school, or the SCHSL wouldn't have sanctioned them. The coaches look out for the players and have the players' best interest in mind. If other coaches in the upstate are so upset at their players leaving their programs, they should look within and see why the players are leaving instead of bashing MVP for doing nothing wrong.

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Just curious – where do you think MVP‘s coaches came from?

I know where they came from, that's a whole different conversation. But by asking that you are implying that yes these coaches that were at previous programs recruited their players to a new school to create an "Allstar team" from the programs they came from. Why do you think a coach from a traditional high school would choose to go to a charter school?

Would love to see the proof that a coach at MVP recruited their players. And what all star team? Did you watch the Crescent game last week? They had every opportunity to win that game, if MVP was an all star team wouldn't the Crescent game have been a blowout? MVP is the underdog this week, not the other way around.

[FootballFan59]

MVP is a public charter, free-tuition school. How do you think they're getting these players? It's because the players are choosing to play there. Not through scholarship, or having money thrown at them, or coaches knocking on their doors, it's because the kids saw an opportunity to succeed on the football field and decided to go play together. Every kid in South Carolina had that choice. No one gets upset when a player from Greer transfers to Byrnes, or a player from Blacksburg transfers to Gaffney, but when a player from Blue Ridge or Broome or Dorman transfers to MVP, now it's a problem. MVP did not obtain any of these players any worse than how Spartanburg and the other 5A schools obtain their transfers. Grey Ramsey is a well-known coach in the upstate and brought many more well-known coaches with him, the players coming to play for them was inevitable.

And for education, I know many kids at MVP and they're getting great education. There is a duel-enrollment program set up with Spartanburg Community College to help the kids graduate with their associates degree. They have great teachers and administration just like every other SCHSL school surrounding them. Sounds like a good gig to me.

MVP is definitely school, or the SCHSL wouldn't have sanctioned them. The coaches look out for the players and have the players' best interest in mind. If other coaches in the upstate are so upset at their players leaving their programs, they should look within and see why the players are leaving instead of bashing MVP for doing nothing wrong.

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Just curious – where do you think MVP‘s coaches came from?

I know where they came from, that's a whole different conversation. But by asking that you are implying that yes these coaches that were at previous programs recruited their players to a new school to create an "Allstar team" from the programs they came from. Why do you think a coach from a traditional high school would choose to go to a charter school?

Would love to see the proof that a coach at MVP recruited their players. And what all star team? Did you watch the Crescent game last week? They had every opportunity to win that game, if MVP was an all star team wouldn't the Crescent game have been a blowout? MVP is the underdog this week, not the other way around.

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect. I am taking information that you gave, Where did these coaches come from? They came from schools in the area, the head coach was an assistant at Spartanburg for an entire year it was known he was going to be the HC at MVP. I am not saying they recruited, I am saying by asking your question of where do you think MVP coaches came from implies they recruited. It also implies they are taking some of the best players from the programs they came from. The use of All Stars to label a team that hand chooses who is on the team does not imply they can beat everyone.

Still how are they the same as traditional high schools? In regards to they can cap their enrollment, they can choose who is enrolled, the athletic coaches have a say in enrollment as to "who is a good fit"?

[footballenjoyer16]

MVP is a public charter, free-tuition school. How do you think they're getting these players? It's because the players are choosing to play there. Not through scholarship, or having money thrown at them, or coaches knocking on their doors, it's because the kids saw an opportunity to succeed on the football field and decided to go play together. Every kid in South Carolina had that choice. No one gets upset when a player from Greer transfers to Byrnes, or a player from Blacksburg transfers to Gaffney, but when a player from Blue Ridge or Broome or Dorman transfers to MVP, now it's a problem. MVP did not obtain any of these players any worse than how Spartanburg and the other 5A schools obtain their transfers. Grey Ramsey is a well-known coach in the upstate and brought many more well-known coaches with him, the players coming to play for them was inevitable.

And for education, I know many kids at MVP and they're getting great education. There is a duel-enrollment program set up with Spartanburg Community College to help the kids graduate with their associates degree. They have great teachers and administration just like every other SCHSL school surrounding them. Sounds like a good gig to me.

MVP is definitely school, or the SCHSL wouldn't have sanctioned them. The coaches look out for the players and have the players' best interest in mind. If other coaches in the upstate are so upset at their players leaving their programs, they should look within and see why the players are leaving instead of bashing MVP for doing nothing wrong.

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Multiple players have gotten more visibility and received more college offers since going to MVP. I guess you don't follow high school recruiting or don't care enough to look at what you're saying first. These kids left and went to MVP because they wanted to have a better chance at getting recruited and having success on the field. And that's exactly what's happening. Sorry you don't like players having the chance to better themselves and their careers.

That is a joke, you really believe that they were not getting recruited before they were at MVP? Try to flip it to I do not care, you have no idea who I am and what I do. But you still try to deflect and not answer any of the other points about how MVP is not like traditional high schools and why they should not compete for the same titles because of this. But that is okay you can make your choice but to try and say they are the same as traditional high schools and they are on the same playing field is just not true.

I do not care who you are or what you do. This is about South Carolina high school football lol. Of course they're not on the same playing field as other 3A schools, they're a good program with good players and good coaches. We don't see that often in 3A. But they're far from an all star team. These kids had an opportunity to come to MVP just like they had the same opportunity to go anywhere else.

Yeah some of the players were getting recruited before MVP, but it has also ramped up for them since going to MVP. Do you know how much attention was given to MVP by college coaches around the southeast, I know of many coaches that have been interested in the players there. Any team that has been as successful as MVP is going to get plenty of interest from college coaches.

Who cares if they're not a traditional high school. The players had the choice. No one was forced to go to MVP. They could've gone to any other public school around if they wanted, they chose what they felt was best for them.

[footballenjoyer16]

That’s adorable.

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Just curious – where do you think MVP‘s coaches came from?

I know where they came from, that's a whole different conversation. But by asking that you are implying that yes these coaches that were at previous programs recruited their players to a new school to create an "Allstar team" from the programs they came from. Why do you think a coach from a traditional high school would choose to go to a charter school?

Would love to see the proof that a coach at MVP recruited their players. And what all star team? Did you watch the Crescent game last week? They had every opportunity to win that game, if MVP was an all star team wouldn't the Crescent game have been a blowout? MVP is the underdog this week, not the other way around.

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect. I am taking information that you gave, Where did these coaches come from? They came from schools in the area, the head coach was an assistant at Spartanburg for an entire year it was known he was going to be the HC at MVP. I am not saying they recruited, I am saying by asking your question of where do you think MVP coaches came from implies they recruited. It also implies they are taking some of the best players from the programs they came from. The use of All Stars to label a team that hand chooses who is on the team does not imply they can beat everyone.

Still how are they the same as traditional high schools? In regards to they can cap their enrollment, they can choose who is enrolled, the athletic coaches have a say in enrollment as to "who is a good fit"?

I didn't ask the coaches question so I don't know what that person was intending behind it. But what player does MVP have that was the best player from their previous team besides Jaylen McGill? You're saying they poached all the best players in the upstate which simply isn't true. Most of the kids they have weren't getting good opportunities at their previous schools and needed to do something to help their future. Such an awful thing isn't it.

[FootballFan59]

It is adorable, the entire institution of charter schools is transactional in nature. What athletes has MVP developed? How have they shown they care more than the coaches that had been with those players for 1-4 years? Who has gotten more visibility and received any more offers from colleges once they have gone to MVP? Trying to talk negatively about the coaches that put so much into the programs they run in the upstate is part of the problem people have with charter schools. Most of these kids leave and go to the charter schools because it is easier, they are done with school and football by the time traditional schools get out of school for the day.

Just curious – where do you think MVP‘s coaches came from?

I know where they came from, that's a whole different conversation. But by asking that you are implying that yes these coaches that were at previous programs recruited their players to a new school to create an "Allstar team" from the programs they came from. Why do you think a coach from a traditional high school would choose to go to a charter school?

Would love to see the proof that a coach at MVP recruited their players. And what all star team? Did you watch the Crescent game last week? They had every opportunity to win that game, if MVP was an all star team wouldn't the Crescent game have been a blowout? MVP is the underdog this week, not the other way around.

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect. I am taking information that you gave, Where did these coaches come from? They came from schools in the area, the head coach was an assistant at Spartanburg for an entire year it was known he was going to be the HC at MVP. I am not saying they recruited, I am saying by asking your question of where do you think MVP coaches came from implies they recruited. It also implies they are taking some of the best players from the programs they came from. The use of All Stars to label a team that hand chooses who is on the team does not imply they can beat everyone.

Still how are they the same as traditional high schools? In regards to they can cap their enrollment, they can choose who is enrolled, the athletic coaches have a say in enrollment as to "who is a good fit"?

I didn't ask the coaches question so I don't know what that person was intending behind it. But what player does MVP have that was the best player from their previous team besides Jaylen McGill? You're saying they poached all the best players in the upstate which simply isn't true. Most of the kids they have weren't getting good opportunities at their previous schools and needed to do something to help their future. Such an awful thing isn't it.

Sorry was responding to multiple posts I guess. But did not say the best players, and it without a doubt is okay for students to seek out the best opportunities for themselves. QB from Greenville high, RB from Broome, but I am also not going to look up every kid on their roster to answer that question. But that is besides the point, parents and kids can choose what is best for them, I have stated that.

Again how are they the same as traditional high schools? Why should they be competing with traditional high schools when they are able to cap enrollment, choose who is enrolled, athletic coaches having a say in enrollment, all online classes, classes done by noon, practices done by 3:30, accountability on state testing which is tied to funding? These are all things that traditional high schools are not allowed to do or have to deal with in some way.

Why would it be so bad to have these schools in an open division because of these differences, they can still play regular season games, would actually probably have an easier time finding schools to play if they were in an open division or moved up to higher classifications.