Greenwood @ South Aiken...First Round of the Playoffs

[96fanatic]

when coach Liner was at 96
they were about 50-50 run-pass some
games more run some more pass
but this kid was a pretty good passer
and runner.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQb3E0_l_F8t=150s

[StateChampsGHS]

when coach Liner was at 96
they were about 50-50 run-pass some
games more run some more pass
but this kid was a pretty good passer
and runner.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQb3E0_l_F8t=150s

This is what Greenwood need to run next year.

[StateChampsGHS]

when coach Liner was at 96
they were about 50-50 run-pass some
games more run some more pass
but this kid was a pretty good passer
and runner.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQb3E0_l_F8t=150s

This is what Greenwood need to run next year.

I think the triple option is causing too many players to get hurt. One reason why Emerald changed up. We need to became more balance and spread the ball around.

[GwoodEagle2k1]

We do have some talented receivers on the team. It's not rocket science.....we just need the backup quarterbacks in when the coaches call a pass play. No offence to the starting QB. He's a great kid but he has to understand it's a team effort when it comes to getting the job done. The backups are more accurate when throwing down the field. Maybe the starter is too amped up or something. Not sure why he can't connect to the receivers down field. Hopefully, the coaches can get that worked out next year because it's too late to work on it right now. We have to go with the best option if we want to make a run for a state title.

There will be no run to the title. Just reality.

Well. I gave my opinions during the process. Many in Greenwood tried to convince me why I was wrong. So I decided to take a wait and see approach. I'm still doing that, but I know what I see. Not trying to be negative, but honest. I love the staff from a personal standpoint, but just don't like what i'm seeing.

Serious question for 93 and state champ. Do you all really think we'd be any better record wise THIS YEAR running out of the spread? At best I'd say me might have 1 more win and be 5-5 instead of 4-6 maybe. We still wouldn't have beat AC, Sandy C, Dorman, WS, or Gville. Just my opinion. With the HBC before Liner, the only time we were any good out of the spread was when we had Dre Yarbough, and RoShun Jackson playing QB. They had elite speed/athletic agility and could throw. Unless you recruit and get transfers, your just not going to have great QBs year after year. My point is if you don't have at least an above average QB running the spread you'll get drilled by teams just the same and probably worse because the clock stops more due to quick 3 and outs. What are your opinions on this?

[eagle93]

We do have some talented receivers on the team. It's not rocket science.....we just need the backup quarterbacks in when the coaches call a pass play. No offence to the starting QB. He's a great kid but he has to understand it's a team effort when it comes to getting the job done. The backups are more accurate when throwing down the field. Maybe the starter is too amped up or something. Not sure why he can't connect to the receivers down field. Hopefully, the coaches can get that worked out next year because it's too late to work on it right now. We have to go with the best option if we want to make a run for a state title.

There will be no run to the title. Just reality.

Well. I gave my opinions during the process. Many in Greenwood tried to convince me why I was wrong. So I decided to take a wait and see approach. I'm still doing that, but I know what I see. Not trying to be negative, but honest. I love the staff from a personal standpoint, but just don't like what i'm seeing.

Serious question for 93 and state champ. Do you all really think we'd be any better record wise THIS YEAR running out of the spread? At best I'd say me might have 1 more win and be 5-5 instead of 4-6 maybe. We still wouldn't have beat AC, Sandy C, Dorman, WS, or Gville. Just my opinion. With the HBC before Liner, the only time we were any good out of the spread was when we had Dre Yarbough, and RoShun Jackson playing QB. They had elite speed/athletic agility and could throw. Unless you recruit and get transfers, your just not going to have great QBs year after year. My point is if you don't have at least an above average QB running the spread you'll get drilled by teams just the same and probably worse because the clock stops more due to quick 3 and outs. What are your opinions on this?

Any team is better when it's balanced. This is 4A not 1A or 2A and even they have started to become more balanced. Hard to be a champion if you're one dimensional, especially in the biggest classifications. Yes they would've been harder to stop. I mean I get it. You're a big fan of the coach. I support the coach too. But I'm a realist and I'm not blinded by loyalty or allegiance to Greenwood. Yes they would've been more competitive with balance. Absolutely. Every balanced team keeps the defenses guessing. I'm glad they won tonight, but lets be honest. The South Aiken defense isn't very good. NW will be. I doubt one pass is going to help us in this one. It is what it is.

[GwoodEagle2k1]

We do have some talented receivers on the team. It's not rocket science.....we just need the backup quarterbacks in when the coaches call a pass play. No offence to the starting QB. He's a great kid but he has to understand it's a team effort when it comes to getting the job done. The backups are more accurate when throwing down the field. Maybe the starter is too amped up or something. Not sure why he can't connect to the receivers down field. Hopefully, the coaches can get that worked out next year because it's too late to work on it right now. We have to go with the best option if we want to make a run for a state title.

There will be no run to the title. Just reality.

Well. I gave my opinions during the process. Many in Greenwood tried to convince me why I was wrong. So I decided to take a wait and see approach. I'm still doing that, but I know what I see. Not trying to be negative, but honest. I love the staff from a personal standpoint, but just don't like what i'm seeing.

Serious question for 93 and state champ. Do you all really think we'd be any better record wise THIS YEAR running out of the spread? At best I'd say me might have 1 more win and be 5-5 instead of 4-6 maybe. We still wouldn't have beat AC, Sandy C, Dorman, WS, or Gville. Just my opinion. With the HBC before Liner, the only time we were any good out of the spread was when we had Dre Yarbough, and RoShun Jackson playing QB. They had elite speed/athletic agility and could throw. Unless you recruit and get transfers, your just not going to have great QBs year after year. My point is if you don't have at least an above average QB running the spread you'll get drilled by teams just the same and probably worse because the clock stops more due to quick 3 and outs. What are your opinions on this?

Any team is better when it's balanced. This is 4A not 1A or 2A and even they have started to become more balanced. Hard to be a champion if you're one dimensional, especially in the biggest classifications. Yes they would've been harder to stop. I mean I get it. You're a big fan of the coach. I support the coach too. But I'm a realist and I'm not blinded by loyalty or allegiance to Greenwood. Yes they would've been more competitive with balance. Absolutely. Every balanced team keeps the defenses guessing. I'm glad they won tonight, but lets be honest. The South Aiken defense isn't very good. NW will be. I doubt one pass is going to help us in this one. It is what it is.

The question that I'm asking is how many more games would we have won this year running the spread? My love for Gwood and whether I like the coach or not has nothing to do with it. I'm like you man, I cheer for whomever is the Greenwood coach regardless of who it is. I just don't think any of the current qbs we have would flourish running the spread. I wish we could run the spread because it's fun to watch. However, we are not trotting out Mark Logan, Armanti Edwards, Roshun Jackson, or Dre Yarbough at QB. Liner is not going to recruit players from other schools or hit the high school transfer portal just to run the spread. Look at some of the schools specifically in our region and see how many transfers they have.

As for having balance on offense. I 100 percent agree with you on that. Can't be one dimensional to compete for a state title at this level like you said. Cathcart had balance with his double wing. Liner has no balance with his flexbone (triple option) and unfortunately that will get us beat next week in Rock Hill.

[eagle93]

We do have some talented receivers on the team. It's not rocket science.....we just need the backup quarterbacks in when the coaches call a pass play. No offence to the starting QB. He's a great kid but he has to understand it's a team effort when it comes to getting the job done. The backups are more accurate when throwing down the field. Maybe the starter is too amped up or something. Not sure why he can't connect to the receivers down field. Hopefully, the coaches can get that worked out next year because it's too late to work on it right now. We have to go with the best option if we want to make a run for a state title.

There will be no run to the title. Just reality.

Well. I gave my opinions during the process. Many in Greenwood tried to convince me why I was wrong. So I decided to take a wait and see approach. I'm still doing that, but I know what I see. Not trying to be negative, but honest. I love the staff from a personal standpoint, but just don't like what i'm seeing.

Serious question for 93 and state champ. Do you all really think we'd be any better record wise THIS YEAR running out of the spread? At best I'd say me might have 1 more win and be 5-5 instead of 4-6 maybe. We still wouldn't have beat AC, Sandy C, Dorman, WS, or Gville. Just my opinion. With the HBC before Liner, the only time we were any good out of the spread was when we had Dre Yarbough, and RoShun Jackson playing QB. They had elite speed/athletic agility and could throw. Unless you recruit and get transfers, your just not going to have great QBs year after year. My point is if you don't have at least an above average QB running the spread you'll get drilled by teams just the same and probably worse because the clock stops more due to quick 3 and outs. What are your opinions on this?

Any team is better when it's balanced. This is 4A not 1A or 2A and even they have started to become more balanced. Hard to be a champion if you're one dimensional, especially in the biggest classifications. Yes they would've been harder to stop. I mean I get it. You're a big fan of the coach. I support the coach too. But I'm a realist and I'm not blinded by loyalty or allegiance to Greenwood. Yes they would've been more competitive with balance. Absolutely. Every balanced team keeps the defenses guessing. I'm glad they won tonight, but lets be honest. The South Aiken defense isn't very good. NW will be. I doubt one pass is going to help us in this one. It is what it is.

The question that I'm asking is how many more games would we have won this year running the spread? My love for Gwood and whether I like the coach or not has nothing to do with it. I'm like you man, I cheer for whomever is the Greenwood coach regardless of who it is. I just don't think any of the current qbs we have would flourish running the spread. I wish we could run the spread because it's fun to watch. However, we are not trotting out Mark Logan, Armanti Edwards, Roshun Jackson, or Dre Yarbough at QB. Liner is not going to recruit players from other schools or hit the high school transfer portal just to run the spread. Look at some of the schools specifically in our region and see how many transfers they have.

As for having balance on offense. I 100 percent agree with you on that. Can't be one dimensional to compete for a state title at this level like you said. Cathcart had balance with his double wing. Liner has no balance with his flexbone (triple option) and unfortunately that will get us beat next week in Rock Hill.

Short answer is yes they would've had better chances if they mixed up the offensive sets. They absolutely do have two kids that are more accurate passers than the starter who consistently over throws the receiver. Last night was his most accurate pass all season. The one lone pass thrown last night. If you've gone to every game you too have seen these more accurate passers the couple of times they were used. No one said we can't ever run it. But mix it up. Maybe 70/30 run pass or something to keep the opposing defenses honest. I think we're becoming such a sensitive society that it's becoming a sin to call out things as they are in fear that someone's feelings will be hurt. I'm getting frustrated with some acting if we Greenwood has no one that can throw enough to mix it up. This just isn't true. Even smaller schools like 96 and Saluda has these kids and they are much smaller communities and schools.

[StateChampsGHS]

Absolutely, GwoodEagle2k1!!!

Greenwood would have beaten AC Flora, maybe Dorman, TL Hanna and Westside if we ran spread. We have a good backup QB that can run the system. He has the right quarterback built too (6'-3" 213lbs). We have some talented receivers on roster and JV have some good receivers too. We turned the ball over too many times in the triple option this year which other teams capitalize on.

[eagle93]

Absolutely, GwoodEagle2k1!!!

Greenwood would have beaten AC Flora, maybe Dorman, TL Hanna and Westside if we ran spread. We have a good backup QB that can run the system. He has the right quarterback built too (6'-3" 213lbs). We have some talented receivers on roster and JV have some good receivers too. We turned the ball over too many times in the triple option this year which other teams capitalize on.

I'm not even saying they have to go complete spread again. But mix up the looks with other offensive sets. I-formation, more pistol set; and some triple option. Who says you have to be stuck in one formation?

[StateChampsGHS]

Liner need to step up and have a team meeting with his assistant coaches starting with the special teams coach. (Awareness on the field, commit and presue to the ball quickly and improve tackling)

Our kickoff coverage, punt coverage, kick and punt return game is trash. We need to look at old film during when Cathcart was coaching or back when Liner was the offensive coordinator. Special teams was good back then. We use to kick the ball deep and was able to tackle the kick return man around the 20 yard line.

I hate seeing our team loss out there. We almost gave that game away last night.