As for the Dorman series being 8-15, that actually isn't bad. 2 coaches who didn't particularly do well at Greenwood had most those losses. Byrnes was D2 or smaller every time we played them, and beat anyone in front of them for quite awhile. Including the big D1s you talk about. 10-12 against Gaffney isn't bad and was tied forever. Both Gaffney and Greenwood are traditional powers and are in the ranks for most titles in the state with a few others. NW just had our number even when we were Big 16, but we won when it mattered. 2012 title.FootballFan4343 wrote:To be honest, I didn't see that comment, likely it got lost in my responses. But, to your point, you are using one team and a couple of seasons to attempt to prove the point that school enrollment doesn't matter. So, lets compare Greenwood and Dorman, shall we? You mention that Greenwood "consistently" has beaten teams like Dorman. However, Greenwood sports an 8-15 record all-time against Dorman. Those years included some pretty good Greenwood teams.eagle93 wrote:FBF. You looked completely over where I said in those years they beat those power D1 schools. In 2000 Dorman won D1. They lost to Greenwood who won D2. They beat those D1 schools consistently during the years they competed for titles. In 2012 they beat them all. The non-conference was always D1. Now the non-conference is smaller and weaker. They can't even win region and beat teams that never beat them before now. Leadership.
Now, lets use Byrnes. Greenwood is 2-9 vs. Byrnes
Lets try Northwestern: Greenwood is 1-5
Gaffney: Greenwood is 10-12-3
That was just a quick look. The one consistency is those are programs which you have compared Greenwood to in terms of "premiere" programs, yet the Eagles have a pretty poor record against them. Assuming these are all elite programs and, according to you, all have elite athletes with great coaching. What is the difference? ENROLLMENT!
Look, we can argue back and forth all day, but the no one has countered this FACT
Historically the schools the bottom of each classification (in terms of enrollment) do not compete for state championships. Thats 5A, 4A, 3A, 2A or 1A. It just doesn't happen. The facts show that.
Instead, the argument I continue to get is these one off scenarios where people say, well that year Greenwood went 15-0, they beat the D-1 champ. Or, we beat 'em all one year. So, your argument against enrollment not mattering is based on a couple of "historic years". If so, yes I will give you that, if you have a "historic team", then enrollment probably doesn't matter for that season. But, this thread was started talking about enrollment mattering to the overall long term success of a program. The facts show that the teams at the bottom of each classification (in terms of enrollment) do not show sustained success in their classification.
I'll agree with you. Enrollment matters at some schools. But that's not the problem at Greenwood. We lost to Easley this year.
