Gray Collegiate headed to Clearwater FL

[SF Band dad]

I suggest you just stay in Florida. If you, and your fellow "athletic magnet" schools had any testicular fortitude, you would voluntarily play-up a classification or two. As it is, all we can hope for is the occasional beat-down from Abbeville, or some other REAL 2A school that has an exceptional team.

GO WAR EAGLES!! and don't come back.

[1 CAT FAN]

The SCHSL making money under the table from these charter schools.

[DFOLDMAN]

I suggest you just stay in Florida. If you, and your fellow "athletic magnet" schools had any testicular fortitude, you would voluntarily play-up a classification or two. As it is, all we can hope for is the occasional beat-down from Abbeville, or some other REAL 2A school that has an exceptional team.

GO WAR EAGLES!! and don't come back.

Come on folks....other teams have been more dominant than either Gray or Oceanside and you don't hear people whining about them moving up. In the past teams like Gaffney, Woodruff, Abbeville, Lamar, Summerville or Byrnes have been even more dominant and no one cried like now. Suit up and play ball.

Fear The Fox...

[mikey]

Life ain’t fair either..doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep trying..what message does not playing send..quit when faced with a challenge..

I think every kid who chooses to play for these schools knows Gray will be on their schedule…however they still came out to play…they ain’t scared..so let ‘em play on and leave the protest to adults away from the field..

One thing is for sure..you ain’t hurting the gray kids…they are going on some really nice trips seeing the country and still playing football..while your team is sitting home wishing they were playing football instead of Fortnite..and come playoffs Gray will still be there just more battle tested..

Jmo.

[Rebel-Fan-74]

Life ain’t fair either..doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep trying..what message does not playing send..quit when faced with a challenge..

I think every kid who chooses to play for these schools knows Gray will be on their schedule…however they still came out to play…they ain’t scared..so let ‘em play on and leave the protest to adults away from the field..

One thing is for sure..you ain’t hurting the gray kids…they are going on some really nice trips seeing the country and still playing football..while your team is sitting home wishing they were playing football instead of Fortnite..and come playoffs Gray will still be there just more battle tested..

Jmo.

The AA schools in their Region tried other options, nothing happened. Yeah, LIFE AIN'T FAIR sounds good, but the basic rules you play by should be equal. There are always going to be "better teams" like Byrnes in 2000-2010 when we had a great run. But we had the same rules as Gaffney, for the most part. Cherokee County open enrollment has to help you get players from Blacksburg some times. But remember when a WR named Melton, I believe, went from Gaffney to Dorman? The SCHSL stepped in and wouldn't allow him to play because they ruled the move as a "FOOTBALL RELATED MOVE" and said he had to sit out a year. That doesn't happen if the player moves to Gray because they don't have an attendance zone. Your protest of Melton's move would not matter at all. That is the big issue for those schools. Wait until that school opens up in Spartanburg area and they openly recruit players from Dorman, Byrnes, Spartanburg, and Gaffney... we will not like it either.

The schools tried the forfeit to bring more attention to the issue; and like magic, legislation was introduced to get the discussion going in the correct places.

It's not a SCHSL issue as they are enforcing the rules as they are currently written. SCHSL cannot make them play up as some suggested, because the SCHSL must use the same rules for all teams, so they don't have the flexibility to deal with the Gray, Oceanside, etc. If the Legislative Branch makes a rule about those schools, then the SCHSL will be able to do something... note: ABLE, whether they do or not is to be determined.

I will say this, I don't have a suggestion for a solution as both ideas that have been proposed have holes...
MOVE THEM UP - just relocates the issue, doesn't solve it
MAKE THEM PLAY IN THEIR OWN LEAGUE - currently on a few schools like this, hard to form a League

And don't forget, this is not just a FOOTBALL issue, look at the AA State Champions in other sports for the past few years and you will see what I mean.

[mikey]

Life ain’t fair either..doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep trying..what message does not playing send..quit when faced with a challenge..

I think every kid who chooses to play for these schools knows Gray will be on their schedule…however they still came out to play…they ain’t scared..so let ‘em play on and leave the protest to adults away from the field..

One thing is for sure..you ain’t hurting the gray kids…they are going on some really nice trips seeing the country and still playing football..while your team is sitting home wishing they were playing football instead of Fortnite..and come playoffs Gray will still be there just more battle tested..

Jmo.

The AA schools in their Region tried other options, nothing happened. Yeah, LIFE AIN'T FAIR sounds good, but the basic rules you play by should be equal. There are always going to be "better teams" like Byrnes in 2000-2010 when we had a great run. But we had the same rules as Gaffney, for the most part. Cherokee County open enrollment has to help you get players from Blacksburg some times. But remember when a WR named Melton, I believe, went from Gaffney to Dorman? The SCHSL stepped in and wouldn't allow him to play because they ruled the move as a "FOOTBALL RELATED MOVE" and said he had to sit out a year. That doesn't happen if the player moves to Gray because they don't have an attendance zone. Your protest of Melton's move would not matter at all. That is the big issue for those schools. Wait until that school opens up in Spartanburg area and they openly recruit players from Dorman, Byrnes, Spartanburg, and Gaffney... we will not like it either.

The schools tried the forfeit to bring more attention to the issue; and like magic, legislation was introduced to get the discussion going in the correct places.

It's not a SCHSL issue as they are enforcing the rules as they are currently written. SCHSL cannot make them play up as some suggested, because the SCHSL must use the same rules for all teams, so they don't have the flexibility to deal with the Gray, Oceanside, etc. If the Legislative Branch makes a rule about those schools, then the SCHSL will be able to do something... note: ABLE, whether they do or not is to be determined.

I will say this, I don't have a suggestion for a solution as both ideas that have been proposed have holes...
MOVE THEM UP - just relocates the issue, doesn't solve it
MAKE THEM PLAY IN THEIR OWN LEAGUE - currently on a few schools like this, hard to form a League

And don't forget, this is not just a FOOTBALL issue, look at the AA State Champions in other sports for the past few years and you will see what I mean.

I agree it’s unfair and wrong…I just don’t think forfeiting is the way to go to bring change…and no I don’t have the answer to what is the right way other than the ballot box since it’s in the legislature hands…

[Rebel-Fan-74]

I guess the AA schools didn't have the $$$$ to get the Legislative Attention they needed....

The press jumped on the forfeits and the publicity got some attention. I agree, those players probably didn't want the missed game since they only get a set amount of games, and more than likely they wanted their shot at them on the field...

[BBurg_Wildcat 22]

The only problem with the forfeits is that teams will still have to play Grey/Oceanside in the playoffs. The only change I would make, haha, is that I wouldn't tell Grey I wasn't going to play them, then they don't have time to find another game. Then they sit home as well.

[GoBigGreen]

I think I recall reading that Georgia Charter schools now compete in their own classification in the playoffs. They may have more charter schools than we do in South Carolina and were able to actually form a league.

[DFOLDMAN]

Only real option for SC is for Gray and Oceanside to move up a classification. Not enough of those schools to have their own league/championship. Given the size of SC, probably never will. NC, GA and FLA have much larger populations. But like he said, sitting around with a forfeit in protest doesn't help. Gray is playing ball in Florida....looking like Martin Sheen's character in Apocalypse Now...sitting around in his hotel room growing weaker while the enemy grows stronger...lol.

There are risks with the approach of Gray and Oceanside by not receiving local funding- if their fund raising efforts are unsuccessful, they are in a pickle...all good ...while people are contributing.

Fear The Fox...