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Is Rock Hill that good?

Not really. Can't tell anything from 7 on 7. It's great for reps. But you have a QB that gets to patiently work through reads without worrying about being hit. Totally different game when the big boys get on the field. Was either last year, or two years ago, I remember Boiling Springs just toasting everyone all summer during the 7 on 7 circuit. But then when folks kicked it off for real, they were very average.

Deputy wrote:Not really. Can't tell anything from 7 on 7. It's great for reps. But you have a QB that gets to patiently work through reads without worrying about being hit. Totally different game when the big boys get on the field. Was either last year, or two years ago, I remember Boiling Springs just toasting everyone all summer during the 7 on 7 circuit. But then when folks kicked it off for real, they were very average.

Exactly. Linemen matter.

Deputy wrote:Not really. Can't tell anything from 7 on 7. It's great for reps. But you have a QB that gets to patiently work through reads without worrying about being hit. Totally different game when the big boys get on the field. Was either last year, or two years ago, I remember Boiling Springs just toasting everyone all summer during the 7 on 7 circuit. But then when folks kicked it off for real, they were very average.

Ehh. I disagree a little bit. You can tell quite a bit from 7on7s. Can your QB go through progressions? Can your receivers run good routes? How long can your defense cover? All good things for a team. But, yes to your point line play is critical. But, historically teams that play well in 7on7s do have good seasons. I am not saying that being 7on7 champs means state champs, but success in 7on7s does normally point to successes during the season. (always exceptions to the rule however).

Ehh. I disagree a little bit. You can tell quite a bit from 7on7s. Can your QB go through progressions? Can your receivers run good routes? How long can your defense cover? All good things for a team. But, yes to your point line play is critical. But, historically teams that play well in 7on7s do have good seasons. I am not saying that being 7on7 champs means state champs, but success in 7on7s does normally point to successes during the season. (always exceptions to the rule however).[/quote]
I agree with both.you can tell if you have good qb and reciever play and cover guys.its different when some pressure and your vision is clogged.i think in general they are good though. Definitely not a waste of time.
We have a rising freshman qb that's damn near as good as any other qb in the county.throwing wise.i dont say that lightly either.
Any reps he can get down incase he is needed can only help.7 on 7 help with that aswell..

Fortfor5 wrote:Ehh. I disagree a little bit. You can tell quite a bit from 7on7s. Can your QB go through progressions? Can your receivers run good routes? How long can your defense cover? All good things for a team. But, yes to your point line play is critical. But, historically teams that play well in 7on7s do have good seasons. I am not saying that being 7on7 champs means state champs, but success in 7on7s does normally point to successes during the season. (always exceptions to the rule however).

I agree with both.you can tell if you have good qb and reciever play and cover guys.its different when some pressure and your vision is clogged.i think in general they are good though. Definitely not a waste of time.
We have a rising freshman qb that's damn near as good as any other qb in the county.throwing wise.i dont say that lightly either.
Any reps he can get down incase he is needed can only help.7 on 7 help with that aswell..[/quote]
7 v 7 is a great tool and there are benefits with getting reps in, QB's working on timing & cohesion with their receivers, defense working on coverage, etc..., etc..., etc... There are also negatives with coaching staffs that are more worried about winning then using the time to prepare for the coming season. You see defenses with the middle linebacker lined up 15yds deep before the snap as an example. If you actually run your true system then it pays dividends! As for it portraying your strength in the coming season we can use 2018 Northwestern as an example. Burned the 7 v 7 circuit up last summer! Skill players were not the issue nor was the QB position. With those positions in good shape the season played out totally with the offensive/defensive lines which were just small. When the line won in the trenches NW won on the field, simple as that. In games vs teams like Byrnes & Dorman who had significant size advantage NW was competitive for awhile but couldn't compete in the 4th quarter.
If you are smoking on the 7 v 7 circuit this summer and have a stud O-line then I would be smiling!

Why do we always assume teams that excel in 7on7 don’t have OLs? Doesn’t RH have most of their OL returning from last year? Granted, the RB woulda been pretty good behind an average OL.

Deputy wrote:Not really. Can't tell anything from 7 on 7. It's great for reps. But you have a QB that gets to patiently work through reads without worrying about being hit. Totally different game when the big boys get on the field. Was either last year, or two years ago, I remember Boiling Springs just toasting everyone all summer during the 7 on 7 circuit. But then when folks kicked it off for real, they were very average.

I agree with you on this. 7 on 7 is mainly good for reps and a chance to see another defense besides your own team. Unless a QB has a line that can hold up for four plus seconds, he is going to be on the move not standing tall in the pocket. And defensively, when will a coach be in man to man coverage the entire game? Can't crown a champion, say a player is a game changer, or predict the season based off of what you see in 7 on 7, which has been stated. When the bullets start flying and the big lights are on then we see how things play out.

Don't get me wrong. It does have a place. Gets good reps for DB's, route running, QB progression. But have seen many of the 7 on 7 Wonderboy QBs wilt like a dying flower when he is suddenly faced by a linebacker, or defensive end, coming off the corner. Now they do show if folks have some athletic talent at the skill positions. But it doesn't guarantee what will come in the fall. Before, I referenced Boiling Springs a year, or two, ago. Seemed to beat the brakes off of everyone all summer in the 7 on 7 circuit. Regular season? Average. The other day Northwestern beat Dutch Fork. I'll take DF if they met up in the fall.

Deputy wrote:Don't get me wrong. It does have a place. Gets good reps for DB's, route running, QB progression. But have seen many of the 7 on 7 Wonderboy QBs wilt like a dying flower when he is suddenly faced by a linebacker, or defensive end, coming off the corner. Now they do show if folks have some athletic talent at the skill positions. But it doesn't guarantee what will come in the fall. Before, I referenced Boiling Springs a year, or two, ago. Seemed to beat the brakes off of everyone all summer in the 7 on 7 circuit. Regular season? Average. The other day Northwestern beat Dutch Fork. I'll take DF if they met up in the fall.

We responded to your previous comment that "You can't tell anything from a 7on7". It seems now you have backtracked and are saying that you can tell certain things. We disagreed with your previous comment and in fact feel you can tell "a lot". The only thing you can't tell is if the team has a line or not. If a team has a good o-line, and is amazing at 7on7s, you are likely looking at the state champions.