SF Band dad wrote:If Dorman & Hillcrest tie on points w/mark-offs, Dorman has the advantage on the opponent wins & losses.
_______with markoffs____without
Dorman -- 35 - 55 _ _ _ _ _ 51 - 59
Hillcrest - 27 - 63 _ _ _ _ _ 43 - 67
Consider that most of those teams will shoved into branches of the same bracket, some of those match-ups will be first round games.Darth Rebel wrote:I'm glad this is the last year of this. I know most of you don't like how the 5A is going to be done but i am. It's a shame we have very good teams in Spartanburg,Northwestern, Byrnes,Dutch Fork,Dorman Hillcrest and Westside and they will be split up. What a great playoffs we would have this year if it was just one champion
oli3 wrote:Thanks to MeanGreen and Rebel Fan for their work on this... I am curious a bit on the relative point totals for Hillcrest and Dorman. MeanGreen has Dorman at 7th seed and Hillcrest at 8th seed (both 38.5 vs 38). RebelFan, what are your totals for those two schools?
Thanks
If York-Nation Ford-Gaffney finished all tied, Gaffney would get the 2nd seed, Nation Ford 3rd, and York 4th from the region. The tiebreaker is defensive points allowed in the games the three played each other. That would give Gaffney the 2 seed. So they look to be in decent shape for a home playoff game even with a loss.EHSMeanGreen wrote:4A Projections after Week 10 - Updated: October 31,2015
Some Projected Region Records...
Region 1................Region 2.........................Region 3............................Region 4
Westside 6-1...........Spartanburg 6-1................Northwestern 6-0.................Dutch Fork 4-1
TL Hanna 5-2............Byrnes 6-1.....................York 4-2............................Westwood 4-1
Hillcrest 5-2.............Dorman 5-2....................Nation Ford 4-2....................Blythewood 3-2
Greenwood 4-3...........Boiling Springs 5-2..........Gaffney 4-2.........................Ridge View 3-2
Laurens 4-3..............Mauldin 3-4....................Fort Mill 2-4........................Spring Valley 2-3
Easley 3-4..............
Region 5................Region 6.........................Region 7............................Region 8
Lexington 5-0..........Sumter 5-0......................Goose Creek 5-0...................Fort D 4-0
River Bluff 3-2.........Conway 4-1......................Cane Bay 4-1.......................Ashley Ridge 3-1
North Augusta 2-3.....South Florence 3-2.............Wando 2-3..........................Summerville 2-2
White Knoll 2-3........Carolina Forest 2-3.............West Ashley 2-3....................Colleton County 1-3
Irmo 2-3
This is about 80% complete.
I am currently studying all the Out-of-State, 3A, and 2A opponents to see who might get to 6 wins....
I will see how that could affect the brackets.
So there may be an update.
I'll give more details later.
FootballFan4343 wrote:If York-Nation Ford-Gaffney finished all tied, Gaffney would get the 2nd seed, Nation Ford 3rd, and York 4th from the region. The tiebreaker is defensive points allowed in the games the three played each other. That would give Gaffney the 2 seed. So they look to be in decent shape for a home playoff game even with a loss.EHSMeanGreen wrote:4A Projections after Week 10 - Updated: October 31,2015
Some Projected Region Records...
Region 1................Region 2.........................Region 3............................Region 4
Westside 6-1...........Spartanburg 6-1................Northwestern 6-0.................Dutch Fork 4-1
TL Hanna 5-2............Byrnes 6-1.....................York 4-2............................Westwood 4-1
Hillcrest 5-2.............Dorman 5-2....................Nation Ford 4-2....................Blythewood 3-2
Greenwood 4-3...........Boiling Springs 5-2..........Gaffney 4-2.........................Ridge View 3-2
Laurens 4-3..............Mauldin 3-4....................Fort Mill 2-4........................Spring Valley 2-3
Easley 3-4..............
Region 5................Region 6.........................Region 7............................Region 8
Lexington 5-0..........Sumter 5-0......................Goose Creek 5-0...................Fort D 4-0
River Bluff 3-2.........Conway 4-1......................Cane Bay 4-1.......................Ashley Ridge 3-1
North Augusta 2-3.....South Florence 3-2.............Wando 2-3..........................Summerville 2-2
White Knoll 2-3........Carolina Forest 2-3.............West Ashley 2-3....................Colleton County 1-3
Irmo 2-3
This is about 80% complete.
I am currently studying all the Out-of-State, 3A, and 2A opponents to see who might get to 6 wins....
I will see how that could affect the brackets.
So there may be an update.
I'll give more details later.
That is for STATEWIDE tiebreakers in terms of team's having the same amount of points. Each region has its own tiebreaking procedure for their 1st-4th qualifiers. Region 3-4A, per York Athletic Director is defensive points allowed in games against each other among the tied teams. So basically in the case of Region 3, Gaffney would be the 2nd seed from that region.Rebel-Fan-74 wrote:FootballFan4343 wrote:If York-Nation Ford-Gaffney finished all tied, Gaffney would get the 2nd seed, Nation Ford 3rd, and York 4th from the region. The tiebreaker is defensive points allowed in the games the three played each other. That would give Gaffney the 2 seed. So they look to be in decent shape for a home playoff game even with a loss.EHSMeanGreen wrote:4A Projections after Week 10 - Updated: October 31,2015
Some Projected Region Records...
Region 1................Region 2.........................Region 3............................Region 4
Westside 6-1...........Spartanburg 6-1................Northwestern 6-0.................Dutch Fork 4-1
TL Hanna 5-2............Byrnes 6-1.....................York 4-2............................Westwood 4-1
Hillcrest 5-2.............Dorman 5-2....................Nation Ford 4-2....................Blythewood 3-2
Greenwood 4-3...........Boiling Springs 5-2..........Gaffney 4-2.........................Ridge View 3-2
Laurens 4-3..............Mauldin 3-4....................Fort Mill 2-4........................Spring Valley 2-3
Easley 3-4..............
Region 5................Region 6.........................Region 7............................Region 8
Lexington 5-0..........Sumter 5-0......................Goose Creek 5-0...................Fort D 4-0
River Bluff 3-2.........Conway 4-1......................Cane Bay 4-1.......................Ashley Ridge 3-1
North Augusta 2-3.....South Florence 3-2.............Wando 2-3..........................Summerville 2-2
White Knoll 2-3........Carolina Forest 2-3.............West Ashley 2-3....................Colleton County 1-3
Irmo 2-3
This is about 80% complete.
I am currently studying all the Out-of-State, 3A, and 2A opponents to see who might get to 6 wins....
I will see how that could affect the brackets.
So there may be an update.
I'll give more details later.
That is not the tie breaker in AAAA...
If head to head doesn't break the tie, you use the AAAA Playoff Point System
http://www.schsl.org" target="_blank
AAAA Handbook,
VI. Point System (Both Divisions) If Won If Lost
Division I (winning record) + 4½ + 3½
Division I (non-winning record) + 4 + 3
Division II & (AAA with winning record) + 4 + 3
AAA & (AA with winning record) + 3 + 1
AA & (A with winning record) + 2 - 1
A + 1 - 3
*If a Class A, AA or AAA team with a 5-5 record advances to the 2nd round of their play-offs, the record shall be counted as a winning record.
Tie Breaking Procedure: In case the point system does not gain a solution, the following will be used to seed teams:
1. If two teams are tied in the point system and the two teams played, the head-to-head winner will get the top seed. If there is a three-way tie and one team beats the other two teams, the winner will get the top seed. Also, if there are more teams tied for a particular seed, the point system will be used to seed the team. Seeds will be filled one at a time and the process will start back at the top of the point system.
2. The team whose opponents have the most victories (all games except mark off).
3. The team whose opponents have the fewest defeats (all games except mark off) will receive the top seeding.
4. Start back at the first step of the point system but include the mark off game. In a situation where the two teams have played a different number of games (11 or 10), the team playing eleven games will include the one (1) mark off that maximizes points. If both teams played the same number of games, then all mark offs will be added back before totaling points.
If not resolved by above method, it will be resolved by a coin toss supervised by the Football Committee.
That is for 4A Region Trophies only. At their Region meetings.FootballFan4343 wrote: That is for STATEWIDE tiebreakers in terms of team's having the same amount of points. Each region has its own tiebreaking procedure for their 1st-4th qualifiers. Region 3-4A, per York Athletic Director is defensive points allowed in games against each other among the tied teams.
Not necessarily. Region 1 might have a different tie breaker. Yorks AD has stated the tiebreaking procedure I listed above is how teams out of Region 3 will be seeded. Maybe he is incorrect, but this is what he has told his team and as the region chair for FB, what he is telling the entire region.EHSMeanGreen wrote:That is for 4A Region Trophies only. At their Region meetings.FootballFan4343 wrote: That is for STATEWIDE tiebreakers in terms of team's having the same amount of points. Each region has its own tiebreaking procedure for their 1st-4th qualifiers. Region 3-4A, per York Athletic Director is defensive points allowed in games against each other among the tied teams.
3A and 2A Regions have the right to determine their own tie-breakers when it comes to playoff seeding.
4A Regions do not have that right.
3-way ties within Regions are determined by the 4A point system.
If what you are stating was true.
Easley would have made the playoffs last year as the 4th place automatic qualifier from Region 1.
Easley was 4th in Region One according to the Region tie-breakers.
Easley did not make the playoffs last year.
