SC rule on coaching?

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Re: SC rule on coaching?

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No Fly Zone wrote:
pounddarock wrote:Is it required that all coaches have a teaching certificate?
Head coaches, yes. Assistants, no.
This would be a district requirement - I know of many head coaches who have no teaching certificate...damn shame too...

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I am actually a high school coach in a different state! Wanting to move closer to my parents as they are aging.

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High school coaches are more that just X & O. They have to be able to build relationships with 14- 18 year old kids. It's more than just football too. They've got to support other sports and other programs within the school. They've got to care about grades and what the kid has going on at home. Training in education and working with teenagers is very important. The football coaches who don't have these qualities, usually don't last long, even if they are successful on the field.

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teaching (certified) is how they are able to pay the larger salaries.

Now is the debate all certified coaches are better than a non certified coach ..
I can name 4 HC that was not certified that were damn GREAT COACHES!

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Re: SC rule on coaching?

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Icoachfootball2 wrote:High school coaches are more that just X & O. They have to be able to build relationships with 14- 18 year old kids. It's more than just football too. They've got to support other sports and other programs within the school. They've got to care about grades and what the kid has going on at home. Training in education and working with teenagers is very important. The football coaches who don't have these qualities, usually don't last long, even if they are successful on the field.
Emerald had one of the best assistants in the state and he was not certified yet. He was in school while coaching there. One of the best coaches I've ever seen when it comes to connecting with players.

When he left, it fell apart. Coincidence?

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No Fly Zone wrote:
Icoachfootball2 wrote:High school coaches are more that just X & O. They have to be able to build relationships with 14- 18 year old kids. It's more than just football too. They've got to support other sports and other programs within the school. They've got to care about grades and what the kid has going on at home. Training in education and working with teenagers is very important. The football coaches who don't have these qualities, usually don't last long, even if they are successful on the field.
Emerald had one of the best assistants in the state and he was not certified yet. He was in school while coaching there. One of the best coaches I've ever seen when it comes to connecting with players.

When he left, it fell apart. Coincidence?
No Fly ..to answer your question it is currently up to that school district. If certified it can help with the pay being justified .
Non Certified ..its hard to base a HC salary because of the pay scales for non -certified positions.
People on this board all know one Non Certified coach that won I think 4 state titles and took a bigger program to State.

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likeitRnot wrote:
No Fly Zone wrote:
Icoachfootball2 wrote:High school coaches are more that just X & O. They have to be able to build relationships with 14- 18 year old kids. It's more than just football too. They've got to support other sports and other programs within the school. They've got to care about grades and what the kid has going on at home. Training in education and working with teenagers is very important. The football coaches who don't have these qualities, usually don't last long, even if they are successful on the field.
Emerald had one of the best assistants in the state and he was not certified yet. He was in school while coaching there. One of the best coaches I've ever seen when it comes to connecting with players.

When he left, it fell apart. Coincidence?
No Fly ..to answer your question it is currently up to that school district. If certified it can help with the pay being justified .
Non Certified ..its hard to base a HC salary because of the pay scales for non -certified positions.
People on this board all know one Non Certified coach that won I think 4 state titles and took a bigger program to State.
It's not my question, brother.

Solid answer though.

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Assistant coaching supplement 6k-7k. Head coach 10k-15k

if they don't teach they will have to work elsewhere. This can work as SP had a very successful baseball coach that worked outside the school district. He would meet the kids at 4 p.m. for practice

Would have been better if he worked at the school and could have a baseball class and practice, condition during the day, then coach the jv's after school. But you have to be certified to do that. Big advantage to be able to have your kids in a class during the school day

Some do non-certified jobs like ISS monitor, attendance clerk, job coach, computer lab monitor, but those jobs don't pay as much as public school teachers (who don't make much anyway!)

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pounddarock wrote:I am actually a high school coach in a different state! Wanting to move closer to my parents as they are aging.
It sounds like it is up to the district so you'll have to check each job posting's requirements.

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[/quote]
Who are some non-certified coaching candidates that are "great" that SC high schools are missing out on? I'll wait.[/quote]

Steve Tanneyhill even though not a candidate and not "SCEDU" certified was a really really great coach. Central Pageland has a really young non licensed head coach.

Now to address the original question about certification/license.
If the "Head" coach is a hire with in the school system then yes they should have to follow any and all regulations as any other school hire. If the "Head" coach is a so called volunteer then no. No teaching license required. So does a "Head" coach have to be a school or district employee? Really! Should that be a requirement?

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