2020 Outlook for High School Football

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Will we have high school football this season?

Poll ended at Fri May 08, 2020 10:15 am

Yes, it will start on Week Zero as planned.
17
53%
Yes, but not until the week after Labor Day
8
25%
Yes, but it will only be REGION GAMES
1
3%
NO, for the first time in my lifetime, there will not be any High School Football
6
19%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:18 pm
Fortfor5 wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:15 pm
likeitRnot wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:35 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:07 pm
notabyrnesfan wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:40 pm
the cherokee county superintendent told people just yesterday they are talking about having students use social distancing in the classroom this coming school year when the gaffney high seniors were protesting the two graduation options they have been given. i dont see how you can play a contact sport while you are using social distancing measures. it looks like we will need a miracle to have high school football in 2020.

https://www.wspa.com/news/watch-gaffney ... ion-plans/

his comments on this coming school year last from around 24:05 to 24:20 in the second video in the above link.
Again, everything is based on what we know right his second. It literally changes daily. One thing we do know about the illness is it, basically, doesn't affect our youth. Not only do they not have major implications from it, but many of them don't even catch it. Take a look at the daycares around our state, they have remained open, however has anyone heard of a child catching this through their daycare? My guess is if it happened, it would be all over the news as the Governor has caught a lot of flack for keeping them open. A month from now when our numbers are basically nothing in South Carolina, it is going to be tough to justify to the general public about not opening schools or playing high school sports. Plus with the speed at which medicine has been produced, at this point it is highly UNLIKELY to think that we won't have a readily available treatment for the virus AND a vaccine by the fall. Just one month ago, we were told there wouldn't be a vaccine for 12-18 months, now Dr. Fauci says we are likely to have one with 300 million doses by the end of the year.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/911878/d ... by-january

Also, a month ago we were given numbers of close to 1 million that would die from the disease. Ridiculous quotes from Gov Cuomo saying New York would need 30,000 ventilators (I think last check they ended up needing 2500 total). All in all, the expectations have been WAY worse than they really were.

The point I am making is it is going to be extremely difficult to not have school or high school sports when we have all of this positive news about fighting the virus and we sit here in June with no new cases. The numbers are starting to show, they won't add up. On top of that, you have citizens in South Carolina who have finally started to realize they are ready to move on, THAT plays a major factor. At some point, the well being of a students' future (both in the classroom and off) starts to outweigh the threat of the virus.
If high school football is cancelled, you honestly ruin many low income students chances at furthering their education. Football, more than any other sport, gives low income students that chance. Sure, if you are good enough for major college football, that is known before your senior year. But for the Newberrys, Charleston Southerns, Benedicts of the world, many of those are grabbing those guys who FINALLY broke through as seniors. Those are the guys who need it to have ANY shot at college, because otherwise they can't afford it.
Do we understand that a school system and sports program deal with people of all ages! The virus is not just going to say it's June and time to disappear! It will be here for the fall and winter and guess what???? Also new strains of the flu ! We can't be selfish and put these young men at risk just to our delight ! Some parents will more than likely not put their child at risk! Many said their child was not coming back to school this year if Governor approved schools could re-open! Noway you can 100% say that a player or coach would not catch it! (Until vaccine is made it will be a BIGGGGG change in the public school settings!
we can run we can hide.the reality is we will have to face this virus .quarantine wasnt to keeo you from getting sick it was not ti overload the hospitals so you can live.
We will have to develop herd immunity period.
Id rather face it durrung the summer where the heat and humidity dont do the virus any favors.
We can not run hide for ever.
I dontt want to catch it nor do i want anyone else or thier familys.but if we are going ti face it lets do it on our terms while its at a disadvantage.
Maybe isolate the elderly and young but lets get it on.
People are being seriously misled by this Herd Immunity. They are being told that this happens when people just turn everything loose and get out there and get sick. Nothing could be further from reality. Herd immunity is a step by step, slow process where the immunity is strategically built up. It takes quite some time to do.
Sweeden is weeks away from herd immunity.
Depending on which experts you want to listen too.
I still believe summertime is the best time to press our luck.
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:20 am
bringthewood wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:56 pm
@spectator -- herd immunity refute.

I'm not sure what you're basing your assumptions on, though I can see your quoted sources.

I'll quote a world leading research scientist that I know. "There won't be a vaccine for this. The only way we can get ahead of this is to build herd immunity."

I trust him WAY more than any boolean search you can type up.

That is all.
AGAIN, some of you think herd immunity means to run out and play in the traffic. It doesn't. It is a slow, step by step process. What are you questioning?
my daughter had this back in early january .before they had test as did quite a few at her medical office.
They have been tested for antibodys and it is confirmed.
We may have to get tested aswell.im guessing we won't test positive if we get swabbed due to low interaction .

No bodys saying get stupid but it has to happen.
The reality is noone knows how many have really ben exposed until thurough testing is done.

With hospitals and states getting extra money if the deaths are covid 19 related you wont ever have accurate numbers.
Its a chit show.
We neex to increase our rate of exposure period.
If im going to be exposed i choose summertime.
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Herd immunity means NOTHING if it becomes (or is discovered to be) an evolving strain, like some experts are predicting, at least in regards to the long run.
It may mean that we need two shots a year, flu shot and Rona shot...maybe add a tequila shot in there too.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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Colbyc36 wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 6:38 am
Herd immunity means NOTHING if it becomes (or is discovered to be) an evolving strain, like some experts are predicting, at least in regards to the long run.
It may mean that we need two shots a year, flu shot and Rona shot...maybe add a tequila shot in there too.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
From what i am hearing .if us an Europe would have sealed off nursing homes .we would be between 30 and 50 % less deaths from covid .it seems particularly hard on the elderly.

Plus i absolutely believe this was engineered in wuhan .
They have been playing with this crap since 07 and are notoriously slack in house keeping.
The covid 19 receptors target human cells.no other sars based virus does this aswell
There's a chance we may never have a vaccine aswell.
Herd immunity seems to be our best outlook at this time.

Personally i belive covert ops need to be ran in wuhan amd the lab in question obliterated .30 pounds of c 4 would be a nice start.
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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96fanatic wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 7:36 am
Looks like the football season is up to the Governor. www.schsl.org/index.php/schslcovid-19/
Nope, individual school boards will make the final decision on this. The White House model was just revised yesterday, it says the death total will rise for 70,000 where it is now to 134,000 by August. That is more deaths PER DAY than all who were killed on 9-11. Opening up society now is a death sentence for football at every level.

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 12:24 pm
96fanatic wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 7:36 am
Looks like the football season is up to the Governor. www.schsl.org/index.php/schslcovid-19/
Nope, individual school boards will make the final decision on this. The White House model was just revised yesterday, it says the death total will rise for 70,000 where it is now to 134,000 by August. That is more deaths PER DAY than all who were killed on 9-11. Opening up society now is a death sentence for football at every level.
Please stop spreading "heresay" or what you read online. The White House has clearly said that was an internal document and was not part of any official statements. If you have ever worked in an office, you know that multiple internal documents/thoughts on matters go around before an official release is made. There have been similar internal documents that say just the opposite. Its funny how biased we have become. Once a small piece of information confirms someone's belief...THAT becomes "the gospel" even if multiple reports say just the opposite. Every bit of historic evidence we have has shown that ALL viral pandemics slowdown, no matter what, when the weather warms up.

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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Lets do a quick scenario: Season get the green-light! Aug , Sept, goes by! No reports on covid -19 cases!
Region play begins and first case is reported in that school! 2nd , 3rd , case comes 3 days later! Student was in classes with 25% of football team and student 2nd period teacher is the HC and student ends day with the DC ! ( Now all people the student has been in contact with must do a 14 day quarantine ? How does SCENARIO plays out :? :? :?

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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likeitRnot wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:35 pm
Lets do a quick scenario: Season get the green-light! Aug , Sept, goes by! No reports on covid -19 cases!
Region play begins and first case is reported in that school! 2nd , 3rd , case comes 3 days later! Student was in classes with 25% of football team and student 2nd period teacher is the HC and student ends day with the DC ! ( Now all people the student has been in contact with must do a 14 day quarantine ? How does SCENARIO plays out :? :? :?
A couple of notes on your scenario. You are talking about an event 4-5 months down the road. Keep in mind we have only really been "testing" for this virus (on mass levels) for the better part of 6 weeks. You are basing the "quarantine" on how it was previously handled. It is clear in the future that testing is going to be readily available so the "quarantining" will no longer be a necessity.
Secondly, we are getting a better handle on the "true mortality" of this sickness on a daily basis and the mortality is getting lower and lower (as we uncover how many people have the antibodies in their system and therefore already had it but haven't been reported). By August, the mortality rate could be similar to the flu, so therefore the fear factor may not be there. Also, remember that this virus has shown almost no transmission among those under the age of 20. I mean, none, zip, zilch. There have been multiple studies of children in homes with parents (both of who test positive for COVID-19) and the children do not test positive, nor do they have the antibodies in their system (meaning they previously had it).

The reason for this is COVID preys on our most vulnerable immune systems and overtime our immune systems weaken when not in the precense of pathogens. This is why children are so resilient. They are in close contact with germs/viruses everyday. They don't wash hands, they aren't very sanitary, etc. So their immune systems are tough and it REALLY takes something bad to get them sick. Whereas the immune systems of adults naturally weaken due to becoming overweight, heart problems, etc. Or the fact that we became "germaphobes" and wash hands constantly, don't pick our nose, bite our nails, etc. This is a big reason why nursing homes and older folks are struggling with this sickness as they are most likely to have the weaker immune systems from "living in a bubble" and not being physically active.

I am not saying your scenario is impossible, but its pointless to look that far ahead as things are literally changing daily. We have to go off the facts we know. The facts we know right how is that kids just don't get this, and the few that do have very little effects. Look up the numbers, exponentially more kids are dying of the common cold than COVID-19. We are also learning that they aren't even "silent carriers", meaning they don't show symptoms. As I noted earlier, studies of families have shown that even kids, even when living in the same house as infected parents, just aren't getting it. At some point, later this summer, that will come into play when making decisions regarding public schools.

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Pete Yanity said on WSPA Channel 7 last night that the SCHSL is hoping to keep the normal summer schedule starting in June but the new head coach at Spartanburg High said the problem is that physicals expire at the end of May but you can't go see a doctor to get one at this time. He said the athletic directors are working with the SCHSL to see if they will push the date back on when student-athletes have to have a new physical.

https://www.wspa.com/sports/spartanburg ... -football/
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Chief Whoa wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:11 pm
Pete Yanity said on WSPA Channel 7 last night that the SCHSL is hoping to keep the normal summer schedule starting in June but the new head coach at Spartanburg High said the problem is that physicals expire at the end of May but you can't go see a doctor to get one at this time. He said the athletic directors are working with the SCHSL to see if they will push the date back on when student-athletes have to have a new physical.

https://www.wspa.com/sports/spartanburg ... -football/
The SCHSL passed a rule last month allowing summer workouts to begin June 1st, assuming the Governor opens public school campuses by that time. That is what this hinges on, the Governor, at this point. When he allows it, workouts will begin. Also, it is VERY LIKELY that the Governor will open up "elective healthcare" procedures prior to opening school buildings, so the part about getting a physical becomes a moot point. Based on today's ACCELERATE SC meeting, it is likely the "elective healthcare" will be reinstated later today when the Governor speaks.

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