2020 Outlook for High School Football

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Will we have high school football this season?

Poll ended at Fri May 08, 2020 10:15 am

Yes, it will start on Week Zero as planned.
17
53%
Yes, but not until the week after Labor Day
8
25%
Yes, but it will only be REGION GAMES
1
3%
NO, for the first time in my lifetime, there will not be any High School Football
6
19%
 
Total votes: 32

bringthewood
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 9:38 am
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 8:34 am
spectator wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:30 pm
I heard multiple medical experts verify today what Dr. Fauci said, that making a prediction on in school classes in the fall was a "bridge too far" at the moment. It is quickly becoming the topic of discussion because it effects so many people. They said that one great concern was the masses of principals, coaches, teachers, janitors, etc. who were either over 60 or had health problems...........or both.
I believe there is one way and only one way to have football in South Carolina this fall; if every citizen puts on a mask, right now, and wears it until this stuff is whipped in our state. I honestly believe that we can whip it here in time to play football, we may not have all the summer stuff, but the lights will come on on Friday night. If we do just the opposite and go wild as if there isn't a problem, high school football this year will get executed. If we did it for just the next 3 or 4 weeks it would have a huge impact on it.
Sell tee shirts that say: "I wear this mask so grandparents can attend high school football games this fall" Take the money and start everybody with a sewing machine to start making masks and pay for them with this tee shirt money. Hand them out to anyone who needs a mask. It would, without a doubt, save high school football and probably in school classes too.
You guys love football, save it. Always remember, you don't know what you can do until you try. Just an idea.
It is apparent that you have not studied, at all, the way a respiratory virus works. Simply locking down/wearing masks and completely stopping the spread does no more than delay the virus. Short of having a 100% effective vaccine, this virus will run its course, at some point. It is basic viral science. Using your scenario, we all lockdown until whenever, lets say until we have zero cases. Ok, unless we have an antibody rate of somewhere north of 40%, the virus will spread like wildfire (worse than it has) because we have no immunity to it. Plus, we will have weakened our immune system because we have been inside for months. Your immune system only strengthens by being attacked. Throughout history we have always managed Pandemics by sheltering the at risk and practicing light "social distancing" for the remainder of the population. Herd immunity is the quickest way to eradicate this virus. Our reason for the initial lockdown was to flatten the curve in hospitals, that was accomplished exponentially, so now is the time to "attack the virus". Allow folks to go about life, practicing social distancing, but keeping those most at risk sheltered. That way, we can eventually bring those most at risk out of sheltering in place.
The fact is, at some point, we HAVE to come out and get back to life. The longer we wait, the worse the virus will be the 2nd time around as our immune systems will be shot due to being locked indoors.
I see that you stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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I think he should've already opened everything up especially since this virus does nothing to young people damn it's not rocket science and we the people have the right to make a living and it's bullshit and it's time for it to end

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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racincowboy02 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:30 pm
I think he should've already opened everything up especially since this virus does nothing to young people damn it's not rocket science and we the people have the right to make a living and it's bullshit and it's time for it to end
Most of this was unknown when the "shutdown" began in mid March. Once it was clear that the hospitals were not overrun, the re-opening process began. To his defense, he can't open everything at once as many business have to make significant changes to be safe. That's why some restaurants are choosing to not re-open indoor dining yet. They just aren't prepared. I am not a big McMaster fan, but I believe he has handled our re-opening better than any state around the country. He has opened things "just right". Not too quickly, nor has he opened to slow.

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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FootballFan4343 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:42 am
spectator wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 9:37 am
96fanatic wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 12:18 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:19 am
HuskiesCoach wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:21 am
Other states are starting to issue plans to get back to summer activities. Georgia released a proposal yesterday and I saw where Mississippi is eyeing June 1st. I suspect the SCHSL is putting together a plan to release soon. Every precaution is going to be taken if and when the athletes and coaches are able to meet in large groups again.

Here is my question, how can you let a youth team practice and compete but not let the local schools (High and Middle) do the same?
The High School League already laid out the plan. They passed a ruling allowing summer workouts to begin effective June 1st, assuming the Governor opens up the school buildings by then. So, its in his corner now. Once he opens school buildings, workouts can begin.
I said a few days ago,it is up to the Governor to make the final decision.
my question is if the Governor says that high schools can play football
this year.Can a school opt out and not have football.now that would through
a monkey wrench into football if that happened.
It's not up to the Governor, it's up to the local school board to decide.
No, its up to all of the above. The Governor, SCHSL, and local schools all have a say. If the Governor chooses to keep in person schools closed for next year, the SCHSL and local schools have zero power to challenge that. It is ultimately his call. If HE ALLOWS schools to re-open, then SCHSL and local schools can make their decision. The SCHSL has already made their decision by voting to allow summer workouts begin June 1st (or whenever the Governor allows school facilities to re-open). Once the Governor allows school facilities to re-open the local schools then can make their decisions. At the end of the day, however, if the Governor says No, then nothing else anyone says matters. The department of education reports directly to the Governor, and therefore, he ultimately has the final says.
Have you ever served on a School Board? Do you even realize how much power a School Board has over their district? It is almost absolute.

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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FootballFan4343 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:29 am
racincowboy02 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:30 pm
I think he should've already opened everything up especially since this virus does nothing to young people damn it's not rocket science and we the people have the right to make a living and it's bullshit and it's time for it to end
Most of this was unknown when the "shutdown" began in mid March. Once it was clear that the hospitals were not overrun, the re-opening process began. To his defense, he can't open everything at once as many business have to make significant changes to be safe. That's why some restaurants are choosing to not re-open indoor dining yet. They just aren't prepared. I am not a big McMaster fan, but I believe he has handled our re-opening better than any state around the country. He has opened things "just right". Not too quickly, nor has he opened to slow.
We are last in America in testing. As long as we are there, we have zero idea what level of infection we have here.

bringthewood
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 1:58 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:29 am
racincowboy02 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:30 pm
I think he should've already opened everything up especially since this virus does nothing to young people damn it's not rocket science and we the people have the right to make a living and it's bullshit and it's time for it to end
Most of this was unknown when the "shutdown" began in mid March. Once it was clear that the hospitals were not overrun, the re-opening process began. To his defense, he can't open everything at once as many business have to make significant changes to be safe. That's why some restaurants are choosing to not re-open indoor dining yet. They just aren't prepared. I am not a big McMaster fan, but I believe he has handled our re-opening better than any state around the country. He has opened things "just right". Not too quickly, nor has he opened to slow.
We are last in America in testing. As long as we are there, we have zero idea what level of infection we have here.
@spectator

What is the overall morbidity rate for SC (or any state) for the current year? What is that average for respiratory illnesses?

What is the SC morbidity rate for influenzas for this year? What is the average for the last decade? Last three decades?

What is the annual average for morbidity of all respiratory illnesses in SC... for the USA?

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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bringthewood wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 11:14 pm
spectator wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 1:58 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:29 am
racincowboy02 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:30 pm
I think he should've already opened everything up especially since this virus does nothing to young people damn it's not rocket science and we the people have the right to make a living and it's bullshit and it's time for it to end
Most of this was unknown when the "shutdown" began in mid March. Once it was clear that the hospitals were not overrun, the re-opening process began. To his defense, he can't open everything at once as many business have to make significant changes to be safe. That's why some restaurants are choosing to not re-open indoor dining yet. They just aren't prepared. I am not a big McMaster fan, but I believe he has handled our re-opening better than any state around the country. He has opened things "just right". Not too quickly, nor has he opened to slow.
We are last in America in testing. As long as we are there, we have zero idea what level of infection we have here.
@spectator

What is the overall morbidity rate for SC (or any state) for the current year? What is that average for respiratory illnesses?

What is the SC morbidity rate for influenzas for this year? What is the average for the last decade? Last three decades?

What is the annual average for morbidity of all respiratory illnesses in SC... for the USA?
2 months ago TODAY there were 68 deaths in America, now it's almost 90,000 and will soon go over 100,000. That's in 2 months, not a year. League of it's own.

notabyrnesfan
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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

Post by notabyrnesfan »

its not looking good. gaffney is holding its graduation ceremony on may 28. it is a class of roughly 400 students who get 2 tickets each and the school is still having to use both sides of one of the largest stadiums in the southeast just to fit 800 people in the stands.

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 1:56 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:42 am
spectator wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 9:37 am
96fanatic wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 12:18 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:19 am
HuskiesCoach wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:21 am
Other states are starting to issue plans to get back to summer activities. Georgia released a proposal yesterday and I saw where Mississippi is eyeing June 1st. I suspect the SCHSL is putting together a plan to release soon. Every precaution is going to be taken if and when the athletes and coaches are able to meet in large groups again.

Here is my question, how can you let a youth team practice and compete but not let the local schools (High and Middle) do the same?
The High School League already laid out the plan. They passed a ruling allowing summer workouts to begin effective June 1st, assuming the Governor opens up the school buildings by then. So, its in his corner now. Once he opens school buildings, workouts can begin.
I said a few days ago,it is up to the Governor to make the final decision.
my question is if the Governor says that high schools can play football
this year.Can a school opt out and not have football.now that would through
a monkey wrench into football if that happened.
It's not up to the Governor, it's up to the local school board to decide.
No, its up to all of the above. The Governor, SCHSL, and local schools all have a say. If the Governor chooses to keep in person schools closed for next year, the SCHSL and local schools have zero power to challenge that. It is ultimately his call. If HE ALLOWS schools to re-open, then SCHSL and local schools can make their decision. The SCHSL has already made their decision by voting to allow summer workouts begin June 1st (or whenever the Governor allows school facilities to re-open). Once the Governor allows school facilities to re-open the local schools then can make their decisions. At the end of the day, however, if the Governor says No, then nothing else anyone says matters. The department of education reports directly to the Governor, and therefore, he ultimately has the final says.
Have you ever served on a School Board? Do you even realize how much power a School Board has over their district? It is almost absolute.
Are you trying to just argue with yourself now? I (nor anyone else) ever questioned the power of a school board over its district. I will say again. The order of HOW football has to happen is as follows. Governor gives the OK. Once he does that, the South Carolina high School league has to give the OK (which they passed a ruling earlier this month saying workouts can begin as soon as the governor allows it). THEN and ONLY THEN does the School Board have the ability to allow the schools to open and play sports. So the School Board's word ONLY matters if the Governor and SCHSL allow football to be played.

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Re: 2020 Outlook for High School Football

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spectator wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 1:58 pm
FootballFan4343 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:29 am
racincowboy02 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 10:30 pm
I think he should've already opened everything up especially since this virus does nothing to young people damn it's not rocket science and we the people have the right to make a living and it's bullshit and it's time for it to end
Most of this was unknown when the "shutdown" began in mid March. Once it was clear that the hospitals were not overrun, the re-opening process began. To his defense, he can't open everything at once as many business have to make significant changes to be safe. That's why some restaurants are choosing to not re-open indoor dining yet. They just aren't prepared. I am not a big McMaster fan, but I believe he has handled our re-opening better than any state around the country. He has opened things "just right". Not too quickly, nor has he opened to slow.
We are last in America in testing. As long as we are there, we have zero idea what level of infection we have here.
What hospital or medical agency do you work for? You seem pretty confident on your statements. I would advise you to call the governor and tell him you know more than his medical advisers. Your claim that we have "zero idea what level of infection we have here" is basically saying you know more than any doctor in this state. The way we, and any state, knows level of infection is by death totals. Again, its NOT ABOUT how many people have it, its HOW MANY ARE GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND HOW MANY ARE DYING! Flattening the curve has NEVER been about keeping everyone from getting it, instead its to stop the overflow into hospitals. Also, we can go ahead and say it guys, there WILL BE high school football in the fall. Its happening. Maybe without fans, but its happening. If any of you have followed the State Superintendent's Accelerate meetings, you are aware of this fact. She and others, have been clear that if school is open, then sports should be as well. It has also become clear they will OVERWHELMINGLY support the idea of going back to school in their presentation to the Governor this week. He has shown he will go with whatever his committees feel is best. So, unless a total 180 happens with this virus, we are going back to school and playing sports (maybe without fans), but sports are happening.

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