How Will The SCHSL Protect the Kids and Coaches

[96fanatic]

Here is some information that has been shared and that I have read the past few days. The U of South Carolina reported two days ago that they were planning on the kids not having a fall break, nor returning to school after Thanksgiving because of the strong potential of a second wave of the coronavirus hitting during the flu season. I have two daughters who are nurses and they both have been told that there is strong anticipation once the country opens up again and people start traveling we will probably see numbers go back up. A FEMA rep who is a friend told me the issue with herding is still too low in our population only 20% and it needs to be around 60% to be effective medical biologists have told them. "Toto we aren't in Kansas anymore!"

Another thing has anyone read about the Hong Kong Flu from 1968. The COVID-19 is very similar in characteristics and the people it is attacking. It killed over 1 million people worldwide.

Personally, what South Carolina is doing is a great idea. I have never really seen the point of having a "fall break" and sending students away for a long weekend anyhow. Also, the idea of not returning after Thanksgiving is something we may see become a permanent change. Most schools only have a couple of days of classes afterwards before exams start. This way, you eliminate any potential for students to bring any infection back from wherever they go, AND the bigger long term effect is they don't go home and "relax" only to come back and get right into exams.
One thing we need to realize is this won't be a "second wave", merely it will just be the continuation of what we see now. Folks will get infected and we have to deal with it. Using the Hong Kong Flu of 1968, we know how to beat that, we did it once before. Protect our most at risk (sheltering in place and not visiting) and work for herd immunity. The Hong Kong Flu actually still circulates today as one of the "seasonal flus" we see. That is likely what will happen with COVID-19. It will go away after herd immunity is achieved (or a vaccine) and then come back somewhere in the future as a seasonal flu. You are exactly right about the herd immunity, we are still too low. But the only way to achieve it is for us to become a "herd". We can't EVER achieve that by locking ourselves down.

I was 21 in 1968.we didn't have 24-7 media coverage
of the Hong Kong flu.everyone went on with their lives.the first
flu shot i took was in 1964.it made me sick as a dog.i was
in bed for 3 days throwing up.i didn't take another one until
i was in my 40's. and have been taking them since then with
minor side effects.

[Damefan]

Now with the Governor's response to the issues of youth sports lets apply them to high school sports and how they could apply, plus some new questions that were asked to me today. You can read the guidelines attached below:

https://governor.sc.gov/sites/default/f ... 0FINAL.pdf

1. If a player is found to be infected does that mean the team and coaches (Both Teams) will have to be quarantined for 2 weeks?
2. Since the State is strongly recommending that the players travel to contest independently does that suggest no more team bus rides?
3. No licking fingers or spitting, wonder if that will be a 5 or 10-yard penalty? LOL
4. Who is going to keep up with the 30-80 water bottles
5. How do you social distance on a football bench with 40-70 players and coaches?
6. Concessions are going to be a nightmare!! LOL
7. Define unnecessary physical contact, football is contact!!
8. Will there be no Jamboree's since the facilities have to be cleaned and sanitized between contest?
9. And the poor women's bathroom! LOL

Go ahead and laugh and make your comments but some of this will be very real for some folks. I am just bringing it up for conversation.

[FootballFan4343]

Now with the Governor's response to the issues of youth sports lets apply them to high school sports and how they could apply, plus some new questions that were asked to me today. You can read the guidelines attached below:

https://governor.sc.gov/sites/default/f ... 0FINAL.pdf

1. If a player is found to be infected does that mean the team and coaches (Both Teams) will have to be quarantined for 2 weeks?
2. Since the State is strongly recommending that the players travel to contest independently does that suggest no more team bus rides?
3. No licking fingers or spitting, wonder if that will be a 5 or 10-yard penalty? LOL
4. Who is going to keep up with the 30-80 water bottles
5. How do you social distance on a football bench with 40-70 players and coaches?
6. Concessions are going to be a nightmare!! LOL
7. Define unnecessary physical contact, football is contact!!
8. Will there be no Jamboree's since the facilities have to be cleaned and sanitized between contest?
9. And the poor women's bathroom! LOL

Go ahead and laugh and make your comments but some of this will be very real for some folks. I am just bringing it up for conversation.

You make good points. Assuming these are the rules for the fall, it is likely attendance will be limited for games. But, one thing to remember is these are for summer youth sports. As things continue to improve, its likely some of these restrictions will be relaxed. To put it into perspective, tomorrow is 3 months until the first game, 3 months ago was mid February and we were smack in the middle of basketball season. We have come a long way in 3 months and the signs point to us continuing to get a better handle on the virus and understanding it better. It seems a bit premature to think these will be the guidelines for fall sports.

[Damefan]

Great response, but I always coached, managed, and planned based on the most current information I had. We are 10 weeks and one day away from what traditionally is the first day of fall camp and 39 new coaching changes that have not had the opportunity to work with their players yet or do traditional fitness conditioning. If I were the SCHSL I would back things up until after Labor Day for a start. Looks to me like we could we be going back to the old days where there was no spring practice and weight training this year. Old school coaches will rise to the top in this scheme of things!! "Junction Boys II"

[SF Band dad]

Now with the Governor's response to the issues of youth sports lets apply them to high school sports and how they could apply, plus some new questions that were asked to me today. You can read the guidelines attached below:

https://governor.sc.gov/sites/default/f ... 0FINAL.pdf

1. If a player is found to be infected does that mean the team and coaches (Both Teams) will have to be quarantined for 2 weeks?
2. Since the State is strongly recommending that the players travel to contest independently does that suggest no more team bus rides?
3. No licking fingers or spitting, wonder if that will be a 5 or 10-yard penalty? LOL
4. Who is going to keep up with the 30-80 water bottles
5. How do you social distance on a football bench with 40-70 players and coaches?
6. Concessions are going to be a nightmare!! LOL
7. Define unnecessary physical contact, football is contact!!
8. Will there be no Jamboree's since the facilities have to be cleaned and sanitized between contest?
9. And the poor women's bathroom! LOL

Go ahead and laugh and make your comments but some of this will be very real for some folks. I am just bringing it up for conversation.

An important paragraph from that linked document:

These guidelines were developed based upon social conditions and other information concerning COVID-19 as of May 20, 2020. The health and safety measures outlined in this plan were formed utilizing CDC and SCDHEC recommendations at this time. It is recognized, however, that the information and circumstances concerning COVID-19 remains fluid and variable. Therefore, these recommendations are subject to change in correspondence with new knowledge of Covid-19 or changing social conditions.

[CITYSLICKER]

play ball yall

[FootballFan4343]

Great response, but I always coached, managed, and planned based on the most current information I had. We are 10 weeks and one day away from what traditionally is the first day of fall camp and 39 new coaching changes that have not had the opportunity to work with their players yet or do traditional fitness conditioning. If I were the SCHSL I would back things up until after Labor Day for a start. Looks to me like we could we be going back to the old days where there was no spring practice and weight training this year. Old school coaches will rise to the top in this scheme of things!! "Junction Boys II"

You are correct, in most cases you plan based on current information. But this situation is genuinely unique. We know SO much more than we did 10 weeks ago, so its only natural to wonder what we will know 10 weeks from now. Pushing the season back would probably be the biggest mistake. Based on what we know NOW, the later we get into the fall the bigger risk of a second wave of the virus. Nothing is a given, but the signs point to an issue when the seasonal flu returns in October/November. To push back 3 weeks (which would be after Labor Day), that would mean either eliminating games (which many early season games are traditional rivalries from teams that aren't in the same region) or extending the season. The only reason to push back the season would be if the student athletes don't get ample training time, based on the governor's ruling yesterday it seems pretty clear students will be working out on campus by the middle part of June. That gives them plenty of time to be prepared for August 21st.

[Fortfor5]

Here is some information that has been shared and that I have read the past few days. The U of South Carolina reported two days ago that they were planning on the kids not having a fall break, nor returning to school after Thanksgiving because of the strong potential of a second wave of the coronavirus hitting during the flu season. I have two daughters who are nurses and they both have been told that there is strong anticipation once the country opens up again and people start traveling we will probably see numbers go back up. A FEMA rep who is a friend told me the issue with herding is still too low in our population only 20% and it needs to be around 60% to be effective medical biologists have told them. "Toto we aren't in Kansas anymore!"

Another thing has anyone read about the Hong Kong Flu from 1968. The COVID-19 is very similar in characteristics and the people it is attacking. It killed over 1 million people worldwide.

Personally, what South Carolina is doing is a great idea. I have never really seen the point of having a "fall break" and sending students away for a long weekend anyhow. Also, the idea of not returning after Thanksgiving is something we may see become a permanent change. Most schools only have a couple of days of classes afterwards before exams start. This way, you eliminate any potential for students to bring any infection back from wherever they go, AND the bigger long term effect is they don't go home and "relax" only to come back and get right into exams.
One thing we need to realize is this won't be a "second wave", merely it will just be the continuation of what we see now. Folks will get infected and we have to deal with it. Using the Hong Kong Flu of 1968, we know how to beat that, we did it once before. Protect our most at risk (sheltering in place and not visiting) and work for herd immunity. The Hong Kong Flu actually still circulates today as one of the "seasonal flus" we see. That is likely what will happen with COVID-19. It will go away after herd immunity is achieved (or a vaccine) and then come back somewhere in the future as a seasonal flu. You are exactly right about the herd immunity, we are still too low. But the only way to achieve it is for us to become a "herd". We can't EVER achieve that by locking ourselves down.

I was 21 in 1968.we didn't have 24-7 media coverage
of the Hong Kong flu.everyone went on with their lives.the first
flu shot i took was in 1964.it made me sick as a dog.i was
in bed for 3 days throwing up.i didn't take another one until
i was in my 40's. and have been taking them since then with
minor side effects.

Interesting i took a flu shot 20 years ago at work that absolutely beat me into the ground .havent taken another.
Caught the swine flu in 09 and jr did to was sick as i have been in a while.
Not worried so much about the young guys players thier age gruop fairs fairly well im more worried about the older coaches above 50.

[spectator]

Now with the Governor's response to the issues of youth sports lets apply them to high school sports and how they could apply, plus some new questions that were asked to me today. You can read the guidelines attached below:

https://governor.sc.gov/sites/default/f ... 0FINAL.pdf

1. If a player is found to be infected does that mean the team and coaches (Both Teams) will have to be quarantined for 2 weeks?
2. Since the State is strongly recommending that the players travel to contest independently does that suggest no more team bus rides?
3. No licking fingers or spitting, wonder if that will be a 5 or 10-yard penalty? LOL
4. Who is going to keep up with the 30-80 water bottles
5. How do you social distance on a football bench with 40-70 players and coaches?
6. Concessions are going to be a nightmare!! LOL
7. Define unnecessary physical contact, football is contact!!
8. Will there be no Jamboree's since the facilities have to be cleaned and sanitized between contest?
9. And the poor women's bathroom! LOL

Go ahead and laugh and make your comments but some of this will be very real for some folks. I am just bringing it up for conversation.

All great questions and very real issues. I am tracking the daily number of cases and Thursday's 199 new cases, yesterday's 245 new cases and today's 248 new cases are 3 of the highest numbers so far. I think to predict ANYTHING right now regarding high school football this year is a "bridge too far", in Dr. Fauci's words. If these new case numbers continue to stay where they are or rise the possibility of seeing football this year is very, very slim.

[96fanatic]

I would think that unless the virus just goes away which
does not seem likely,it will be a 100% chance that some
football players will have the virus during the season.