Coaches Hot Seat

[Damefan]

Don't see Shaw getting fired. Beat Dorman. Finished 2nd in region. Probably would have done better had their running back not gotten hurt.

But since we are on the topic...

Is it time for a change at Boiling Springs?

I guess another year would be fair, but not seeing the slightest bit of improvement at Emerald where they always seem to have size and talent.

If anybody in Greenville County cared the slightest bit, about half in the coaches in the county. But they don't. Or maybe it shouldn't be the coaches, but whomever makes the decisions in the county to place as little importance to football as possible.

I think Dubose needs a couple more years...they had 40 kids total but is a 3AAA ...the kids rather go to Greenwood at the moment. But it's the mindset over there if anything. I watched Westview Middle handle a loaded Northside team but lost with a couple turnovers. That's still isn't a guarantee the future is bright because all kids can go to Greenwood High if they parents want them to. I've seen parents on social media talk about the offense. But are ok with Greenwood running the same thing basically. I even showed a parent where majority of Georgia High schools that make deep runs last year in the playoffs are a run first offense. People are so ready to quit on team but check the box score and see how many pass attempts a offense takes. The Lakelands may not pay attention to anything I say in this post. Travel Football in the Lakelands will be the Death of learning the fundamentals of Rec League Football forever. Look at how a coach left 96 yrs ago all the Rec league players played in greenwood 6 to 7 yrs ago. Now they can't field any age group. But people expect them to compete in middle school or JV. Food for thought

It trips me out how people always want to see the ball in the air. When I was still coaching, I interviewed at a school that has been terrible for as long as I've been alive. The AD straight up said that whoever they hired would have to run a spread offense because that's what works. Fast forward 7 years, they just wrapped up another winless season with their 4th coach since then all running the spread.

My belief was always that a coach should evaluate the talent and run the offense/defense that best suited the talent that he had. Sometimes you just don't have the kids who are big enough or fast enough to run the specific offense and you adapt to the talent. My mind immediately goes to the movie "We Are Marshall". I am curious if that team had success in the future with their newly hired coach that was forced to run the spread??

Since then they are 11-77 with 3 winless seasons and 4 1 win seasons. 4-6 is the best record, but they keep running that spread to be cool.

Reminds me of a certain AAAA school in Aiken county that has gone 5-41 over the past 5 years. They have a female AD there and I am not confident in the way they select the football coach. It has been a graveyard for coaches for a long time. They have kids that can play but they still haven't found a coach that has found the right playbook. I remember the year White Knoll came out playing I think it was the wishbone and tore a lot of teams up because they were not prepared to defend it or prepare against it. They won a lot of games until either the coach left or they developed the program enough that they could change to a better offense. You do with what you got!! LOL

[bigdog2003]

Don't see Shaw getting fired. Beat Dorman. Finished 2nd in region. Probably would have done better had their running back not gotten hurt.

But since we are on the topic...

Is it time for a change at Boiling Springs?

I guess another year would be fair, but not seeing the slightest bit of improvement at Emerald where they always seem to have size and talent.

If anybody in Greenville County cared the slightest bit, about half in the coaches in the county. But they don't. Or maybe it shouldn't be the coaches, but whomever makes the decisions in the county to place as little importance to football as possible.

I think Dubose needs a couple more years...they had 40 kids total but is a 3AAA ...the kids rather go to Greenwood at the moment. But it's the mindset over there if anything. I watched Westview Middle handle a loaded Northside team but lost with a couple turnovers. That's still isn't a guarantee the future is bright because all kids can go to Greenwood High if they parents want them to. I've seen parents on social media talk about the offense. But are ok with Greenwood running the same thing basically. I even showed a parent where majority of Georgia High schools that make deep runs last year in the playoffs are a run first offense. People are so ready to quit on team but check the box score and see how many pass attempts a offense takes. The Lakelands may not pay attention to anything I say in this post. Travel Football in the Lakelands will be the Death of learning the fundamentals of Rec League Football forever. Look at how a coach left 96 yrs ago all the Rec league players played in greenwood 6 to 7 yrs ago. Now they can't field any age group. But people expect them to compete in middle school or JV. Food for thought

It trips me out how people always want to see the ball in the air. When I was still coaching, I interviewed at a school that has been terrible for as long as I've been alive. The AD straight up said that whoever they hired would have to run a spread offense because that's what works. Fast forward 7 years, they just wrapped up another winless season with their 4th coach since then all running the spread.

My belief was always that a coach should evaluate the talent and run the offense/defense that best suited the talent that he had. Sometimes you just don't have the kids who are big enough or fast enough to run the specific offense and you adapt to the talent. My mind immediately goes to the movie "We Are Marshall". I am curious if that team had success in the future with their newly hired coach that was forced to run the spread??

Since then they are 11-77 with 3 winless seasons and 4 1 win seasons. 4-6 is the best record, but they keep running that spread to be cool.

Reminds me of a certain AAAA school in Aiken county that has gone 5-41 over the past 5 years. They have a female AD there and I am not confident in the way they select the football coach. It has been a graveyard for coaches for a long time. They have kids that can play but they still haven't found a coach that has found the right playbook. I remember the year White Knoll came out playing I think it was the wishbone and tore a lot of teams up because they were not prepared to defend it or prepare against it. They won a lot of games until either the coach left or they developed the program enough that they could change to a better offense. You do with what you got!! LOL

When the AD told me that, it turned me off to wanting anything to do with coaching there. She told me that the spread was the only way to win in this day and age. Took everything in my power not to bust out laughing at her. This year they got outscored 340-56.

[Blister]

I know exactly what Aiken looks for in a coach. They actually had some quality applicants last time but chose to ignore them all. Sad part is that Aiken has talent.

[Damefan]

I know exactly what Aiken looks for in a coach. They actually had some quality applicants last time but chose to ignore them all. Sad part is that Aiken has talent.

Unfortunately, it wasn't Aiken!!

[likeitRnot]

What coaches in the upstate do you think are on the hot seat? Byrnes? They lost to westside early in the year and a couple other losses but they did beat Dorman which doesn’t say much this year but still they haven’t beat them in a few years. I think if they make a deep playoff run he will be fine but what about at Dorman? They were good this year but not the dorman we expect. Again these guys are good coaches but I know those Fanbases can be a little impatient.

I feel strongly that the Dorman game was a win and remain coach game for Coach Shaw. T agree losing Mack Long for the year will also play a role in decision also.

I now would like to think that Coach Gutshall (Dorman) with the lost to a rivalry and Byrnes may have his seat a little warmer

[bearcat1]

When will the changes and openings begin? After playoffs?

[Tigerific]

Anytime. Stall coach just stepped down.

[Tiger84]

No way this Conway decision can be a hard one! JV team was winless, varsity has only beat one team with a .500 or better record in four years. Numbers way down. Stands almost empty. Booster club has to be down 75%! Decision should be done like ripping a band-aid off…..quick!

[Rebel-Fan-74]

No way this Conway decision can be a hard one! JV team was winless, varsity has only beat one team with a .500 or better record in four years. Numbers way down. Stands almost empty. Booster club has to be down 75%! Decision should be done like ripping a band-aid off…..quick!

Once it spreads to the Booster Club that is very telling.... those are the "die hard" of the die hards....

Losing records get old fast, but a coach losing the team is worse. When the size of the team (by that I mean numbers, weight) is much lower than it should be based on history, that is a very important sign for the administration. When guys don't want to play for a coach, there is a reason. It may or may not be the head coach's fault, but the administration should find out why players are not coming out for football. Historically, Conway has been a good football team... recent history, not so much! There has to be a reason!

[Tiger02DE]

No way this Conway decision can be a hard one! JV team was winless, varsity has only beat one team with a .500 or better record in four years. Numbers way down. Stands almost empty. Booster club has to be down 75%! Decision should be done like ripping a band-aid off…..quick!

100% there should be a change in Conway, but will Conway make one? That remains to be seen, I’m not so sure. If you take away the Conway name and use the results of the last four years for “blank team” without knowing it was Conway, you would immediately know that the program is going down hill quickly and not just the Varsity, the whole system. Blank team has a winless JV team in year 4 of coach, that’s just scary. Number of players coming out is down. Booster club support is way down. Four straight losing seasons. Hasn’t won more than 3 games in a season in the last four years. If I was looking at the sample of information regardless of the school, that is problematic and I would say there would need to be a change. Pretty common sense.