2020 Outlook for High School Football

[spectator]

Folks need to remember that the projections have fallen woefully short, to this point. Numbers are coming up about 5-10% of initial expectations of cases/deaths/hospitalizations. Our state is already showing signs that people are getting back out again. If that continues to happen, and schools are open, there will be sports in the fall. I do disagree on one thing however. I do not think no other sports occur if football doesn't happen. The reality is, at the high school level, government will offset the costs to make sports happen. Our state has operated in a surplus for 5-6 years straight now. We are extremely financially healthy. There is a reason that lawmakers have avoided taking all of the surplus and "giving it back". That reason is for the rainy day we are now experiencing in, what will be, a shortfall in tax revenue needed to run the state. However, unlike other states, we are very financially solvent and will be able to continue to operate the state.

We are one of the poorest states in the country.

[FootballFan4343]

Folks need to remember that the projections have fallen woefully short, to this point. Numbers are coming up about 5-10% of initial expectations of cases/deaths/hospitalizations. Our state is already showing signs that people are getting back out again. If that continues to happen, and schools are open, there will be sports in the fall. I do disagree on one thing however. I do not think no other sports occur if football doesn't happen. The reality is, at the high school level, government will offset the costs to make sports happen. Our state has operated in a surplus for 5-6 years straight now. We are extremely financially healthy. There is a reason that lawmakers have avoided taking all of the surplus and "giving it back". That reason is for the rainy day we are now experiencing in, what will be, a shortfall in tax revenue needed to run the state. However, unlike other states, we are very financially solvent and will be able to continue to operate the state.

We are one of the poorest states in the country.

Actually, quite the opposite. South Carolina is one of the few states that continues to report a surplus. What that means is that we bring in MORE in tax revenue than we spend. So to put it into basic terms, its like a business that brings in 10 million, but spends 9 million. They only profit 10%. Whereas a business that brings in 5 million, but spends 2.5 million is profiting 100%. So, the point I am making is we have funds to get through a "rainy day", whereas a state like New York (which brings in exponentially more than South Carolina) is not fiscally sound as they have run on a deficit for years. To put it blunt, our state is nowhere near poor.

[FootballFan4343]

There will be a football season. If things calm down like they think, figure you will see things go in August like normal. Maybe they push it back to October, or even January. College, or high school, football makes the money. So it is a business decision. And if by chance we can't get back to football by January of next year, I doubt it will matter much anyway. At that point we will all have much bigger issues to worry about. Now I don't think that will be the case, as I think this whole deal will pass soon enough.

For high school, it's either August or not at all. No way football and basketball season can happen at the same time.

I think you are wrong there. From fan support, to making money for the athletic department, there is no substitute for football. Basketball is the only other sport that could come within shouting distance but it falls woefully short. And at both the high school, and college, level football trumps everything. Let's put it this way. If you don't see a football season this year I don't think you will see any other sport at the high school level

No, i am right, school districts can't run these sports together. Impossible to do for many districts; lack of coaches, lack of transportation, lack of opponents that can do 2 at the same time, JUST FOR STARTERS.

You can't speak for all school districts. Sure, it would be difficult, but it could happen. Will it? No, I think if football season passes by, it won't be played in winter or spring, but that doesn't mean it "couldn't" be done. Everything you mention can be overcome with money and with the amount of money that the federal government is dumping into this (and adding incredible amounts to our national debt), I wouldn't count any option out.

[racincowboy02]

spectator you just keep on believing the main stream media and its agenda but for me and my family we are tired of being locked down we want our freedoms back. I feel very strongly that if they don't open these states up very soon you will see protest turn into riots. Its time for the governor to get the hell out. When do we as Americans take our freedoms back

You don't have the right to endanger the lives of others.

I don't have to right to endanger the lives or others lol that laughable. I wouldn't be endangering anybody I haven't had the stupid virus and please spare me the this I don't have the right cause let me tell you something the states and the feds ain't got the right to do what they are doing but the sheep that are most of the American people let it happen for security and safety which is complete bull. If we don't open things up before to much longer the food supply is goin to run out hope you know how to kill your own food and all that fun stuff cause if you don't you will get some type of ration from the feds or state and it won't be enough. I want my freedoms and rights back period

[spectator]

Dr. Fauci just said that we can probably kiss sports goodbye for a year.

[racincowboy02]

Yea that's the same Dr that was giving millions of dollars to Wuhan for the corona virus too right yea that's what I thought id tell him to stfu and gtfo here

[FootballFan4343]

Dr. Fauci just said that we can probably kiss sports goodbye for a year.

A couple of things to unpack from your comment. It helps when you include the questioning and discussion AROUND his 8 word quote (that was pulled from a 45 minute Q/A session). He said he wasn't sure how we could have major league sports as it sits now. He went on to say he is unaware of how professional teams would be able to travel the entire country and at the same time remain quarantined from their families. The thought of a team from Los Angeles traveling to Boston for a game. THAT is what he was talking about. So, you see, just pulling a one sentence quote out of a 45 minute conversation can TOTALLY change the tone. That line is nothing more than clickbait.

The talk this week is there is a very strong chance we will have multiple vaccines available in the fall. Just to show how quickly things are changing, just ONE WEEK ago, we were told it would be the end of the year before a vaccine was available (with 1 million doses) and that was an improvement over 12 months before any vaccine. Well in the last two days, we have heard of a drug that has shown that is can significantly help in healing for those that come down with the disease and Oxford University announced today they will have a vaccine ready by the fall which will have over 100 million doses available by the end of the year.

[notabyrnesfan]

the cherokee county superintendent told people just yesterday they are talking about having students use social distancing in the classroom this coming school year when the gaffney high seniors were protesting the two graduation options they have been given. i dont see how you can play a contact sport while you are using social distancing measures. it looks like we will need a miracle to have high school football in 2020.

https://www.wspa.com/news/watch-gaffney ... ion-plans/

his comments on this coming school year last from around 24:05 to 24:20 in the second video in the above link.

[FootballFan4343]

the cherokee county superintendent told people just yesterday they are talking about having students use social distancing in the classroom this coming school year when the gaffney high seniors were protesting the two graduation options they have been given. i dont see how you can play a contact sport while you are using social distancing measures. it looks like we will need a miracle to have high school football in 2020.

https://www.wspa.com/news/watch-gaffney ... ion-plans/

his comments on this coming school year last from around 24:05 to 24:20 in the second video in the above link.

Again, everything is based on what we know right his second. It literally changes daily. One thing we do know about the illness is it, basically, doesn't affect our youth. Not only do they not have major implications from it, but many of them don't even catch it. Take a look at the daycares around our state, they have remained open, however has anyone heard of a child catching this through their daycare? My guess is if it happened, it would be all over the news as the Governor has caught a lot of flack for keeping them open. A month from now when our numbers are basically nothing in South Carolina, it is going to be tough to justify to the general public about not opening schools or playing high school sports. Plus with the speed at which medicine has been produced, at this point it is highly UNLIKELY to think that we won't have a readily available treatment for the virus AND a vaccine by the fall. Just one month ago, we were told there wouldn't be a vaccine for 12-18 months, now Dr. Fauci says we are likely to have one with 300 million doses by the end of the year.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/911878/d ... by-january

Also, a month ago we were given numbers of close to 1 million that would die from the disease. Ridiculous quotes from Gov Cuomo saying New York would need 30,000 ventilators (I think last check they ended up needing 2500 total). All in all, the expectations have been WAY worse than they really were.

The point I am making is it is going to be extremely difficult to not have school or high school sports when we have all of this positive news about fighting the virus and we sit here in June with no new cases. The numbers are starting to show, they won't add up. On top of that, you have citizens in South Carolina who have finally started to realize they are ready to move on, THAT plays a major factor. At some point, the well being of a students' future (both in the classroom and off) starts to outweigh the threat of the virus.
If high school football is cancelled, you honestly ruin many low income students chances at furthering their education. Football, more than any other sport, gives low income students that chance. Sure, if you are good enough for major college football, that is known before your senior year. But for the Newberrys, Charleston Southerns, Benedicts of the world, many of those are grabbing those guys who FINALLY broke through as seniors. Those are the guys who need it to have ANY shot at college, because otherwise they can't afford it.

[likeitRnot]

the cherokee county superintendent told people just yesterday they are talking about having students use social distancing in the classroom this coming school year when the gaffney high seniors were protesting the two graduation options they have been given. i dont see how you can play a contact sport while you are using social distancing measures. it looks like we will need a miracle to have high school football in 2020.

https://www.wspa.com/news/watch-gaffney ... ion-plans/

his comments on this coming school year last from around 24:05 to 24:20 in the second video in the above link.

Again, everything is based on what we know right his second. It literally changes daily. One thing we do know about the illness is it, basically, doesn't affect our youth. Not only do they not have major implications from it, but many of them don't even catch it. Take a look at the daycares around our state, they have remained open, however has anyone heard of a child catching this through their daycare? My guess is if it happened, it would be all over the news as the Governor has caught a lot of flack for keeping them open. A month from now when our numbers are basically nothing in South Carolina, it is going to be tough to justify to the general public about not opening schools or playing high school sports. Plus with the speed at which medicine has been produced, at this point it is highly UNLIKELY to think that we won't have a readily available treatment for the virus AND a vaccine by the fall. Just one month ago, we were told there wouldn't be a vaccine for 12-18 months, now Dr. Fauci says we are likely to have one with 300 million doses by the end of the year.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/911878/d ... by-january

Also, a month ago we were given numbers of close to 1 million that would die from the disease. Ridiculous quotes from Gov Cuomo saying New York would need 30,000 ventilators (I think last check they ended up needing 2500 total). All in all, the expectations have been WAY worse than they really were.

The point I am making is it is going to be extremely difficult to not have school or high school sports when we have all of this positive news about fighting the virus and we sit here in June with no new cases. The numbers are starting to show, they won't add up. On top of that, you have citizens in South Carolina who have finally started to realize they are ready to move on, THAT plays a major factor. At some point, the well being of a students' future (both in the classroom and off) starts to outweigh the threat of the virus.
If high school football is cancelled, you honestly ruin many low income students chances at furthering their education. Football, more than any other sport, gives low income students that chance. Sure, if you are good enough for major college football, that is known before your senior year. But for the Newberrys, Charleston Southerns, Benedicts of the world, many of those are grabbing those guys who FINALLY broke through as seniors. Those are the guys who need it to have ANY shot at college, because otherwise they can't afford it.

Do we understand that a school system and sports program deal with people of all ages! The virus is not just going to say it's June and time to disappear! It will be here for the fall and winter and guess what???? Also new strains of the flu ! We can't be selfish and put these young men at risk just to our delight ! Some parents will more than likely not put their child at risk! Many said their child was not coming back to school this year if Governor approved schools could re-open! Noway you can 100% say that a player or coach would not catch it! (Until vaccine is made it will be a BIGGGGG change in the public school settings!