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[2002Patriot]

At this rate, maybe it's better if Fort drops a game or two....lol. Winning isn't doing us any favors for seeding since we've dropped from the 2 to the 3.

A loss to Ashley Ridge and you exchange places pretty much....

What does Fort need to at least get the #2 or #1 seed? I still don't get how Dutch Fork with 3 losses (2 mark offs so 1 loss) and 1 in region is still the #1 seed.

[Rebel-Fan-74]

At this rate, maybe it's better if Fort drops a game or two....lol. Winning isn't doing us any favors for seeding since we've dropped from the 2 to the 3.

A loss to Ashley Ridge and you exchange places pretty much....

What does Fort need to at least get the #2 or #1 seed? I still don't get how Dutch Fork with 3 losses (2 mark offs so 1 loss) and 1 in region is still the #1 seed.

Basically, in my "look ahead".... NW, FD, and DF all came in at 36.5 for the final points and I estimated the number of wins the opponents would have (Northwestern was a pure guess since they even have an out of state team that I don't even know where they fall in... AAA, AAAA, or Big 16, then what is their record?).

As for #1 seed with 3 (make that 1) losses...
DF playing and beating Dorman, Boiling Springs and Sumter basically earns them 1.5 points that Ft can only get .5 because they will not beat another Big 16 with a winning record.

Seriously, don't get too excited over these projections yet.... thousands (and I mean that in the literal sense, not figure of speech) of things can alter this. 25 games per week in AAAA (Region III and Region VIII always have one bye team) and all the AA, AAA and out of state teams that played a AAAA team this year, teams with sorry records that could win two stupid games and get in the playoffs by just winning those 2 games, and I'm not thinking of any team in particular (cough, cough, Summerville), but automatic bids for a 2 win team (Green Wave) that would have no other shot at the playoffs.... still lots of football to be played.

This is just one man's crazy idea of what it will look like. Now if in Week 11 I'm showing a bracket, the opportunity for significant changes is like my chances of getting a raise this year.... slim and none!

And I think Slim is on vacation?????

[FootballFan4343]

At this rate, maybe it's better if Fort drops a game or two....lol. Winning isn't doing us any favors for seeding since we've dropped from the 2 to the 3.

A loss to Ashley Ridge and you exchange places pretty much....

What does Fort need to at least get the #2 or #1 seed? I still don't get how Dutch Fork with 3 losses (2 mark offs so 1 loss) and 1 in region is still the #1 seed.

Basically, in my "look ahead".... NW, FD, and DF all came in at 36.5 for the final points and I estimated the number of wins the opponents would have (Northwestern was a pure guess since they even have an out of state team that I don't even know where they fall in... AAA, AAAA, or Big 16, then what is their record?).

As for #1 seed with 3 (make that 1) losses...
DF playing and beating Dorman, Boiling Springs and Sumter basically earns them 1.5 points that Ft can only get .5 because they will not beat another Big 16 with a winning record.

Seriously, don't get too excited over these projections yet.... thousands (and I mean that in the literal sense, not figure of speech) of things can alter this. 25 games per week in AAAA (Region III and Region VIII always have one bye team) and all the AA, AAA and out of state teams that played a AAAA team this year, teams with sorry records that could win two stupid games and get in the playoffs by just winning those 2 games, and I'm not thinking of any team in particular (cough, cough, Summerville), but automatic bids for a 2 win team (Green Wave) that would have no other shot at the playoffs.... still lots of football to be played.

This is just one man's crazy idea of what it will look like. Now if in Week 11 I'm showing a bracket, the opportunity for significant changes is like my chances of getting a raise this year.... slim and none!

And I think Slim is on vacation?????

Got some information on Northwestern's out of state opponent, Woodside. They play 6A football in Virginia and currently have a 5-2 record. So it looks likely they will finish with a winning record (only have 3 games left and two are against teams with losing records). I think (again, stressing I THINK) if an out of state school's enrollment is enough to qualify for Big 16, then a team that beats them could get Big 16 playoff points. Based on page 29 of the SCHSL 4A handbook, here is the direct quote. "Out of State teams will be the same as South Carolina teams if they are also 4A. If they are not 4A, then they will be counted based on enrollment." Woodside's enrollment is over 2,000, which would make them the 12th biggest school in South Carolina, therefore, the Woodside win would count as a victory over a Big 16 school with a winning record. That probably changes things a big, giving NW the #1 overall seed, if they win out. Plus, I am not sure if you are noting this or not, but Gaffney will likely end up with a winning record, so all times who beat Gaffney will get another half point. All they have to do is beat clover and Fort Mill to achieve that, which seems very likely.

[Rebel-Fan-74]

A general note to everyone...

I and EHSMeanGreen have said this many times, 1 game's result can take a bracket and shuffle it drastically. The Bulldog upset of the Vikings totally changed their playoff seeding! Now, depending on how Byrnes and Boinling Springs do against Dorman, J L Mann, and Mauldin for the Bulldogs and Mauldin, Dorman, Wade Hampton for the Rebels. Each of them go 3-0 and the Vikings winning out means they go from #1 to the #3 team from Region II and the overall #1 seed to somewhere in the #7 to #9 range meaning they could go on the road in round one! Should the Bulldogs lose one more game, Vikings are back to the #1 overall seed just like that!

The projections are just a SWAG on our part. It's just a way to spark some interest, get a few folks who may not post a lot, asking questions, telling me how crazy I am for picking this team to beat my team ( I don't mind, I really don't!)... and know this, when I do pick the "wrong team" I'm not doing it out of hatred or anything like that... I just have to pick a winner for every single game, so when I went down the list that day, I picked them! I could go back down the list again right now and my bracket could look different. Games like Colleton County and Summerville this week... we all know Colleton is rebuilding and we've seen improvements. Summerville is having a disaster of epic proportions this season. Last time you saw a 2-6 Green Wave??? Yet pick the game: ?????

Now do that maybe 15 times out of the 25 games in AAAA this week, some are not as difficult as others, but even they can bite you if you don't watch out, right Vikings?

[Rebel-Fan-74]

Got some information on Northwestern's out of state opponent, Woodside. They play 6A football in Virginia and currently have a 5-2 record. So it looks likely they will finish with a winning record (only have 3 games left and two are against teams with losing records). I think (again, stressing I THINK) if an out of state school's enrollment is enough to qualify for Big 16, then a team that beats them could get Big 16 playoff points. Based on page 29 of the SCHSL 4A handbook, here is the direct quote. "Out of State teams will be the same as South Carolina teams if they are also 4A. If they are not 4A, then they will be counted based on enrollment." Woodside's enrollment is over 2,000, which would make them the 12th biggest school in South Carolina, therefore, the Woodside win would count as a victory over a Big 16 school with a winning record. That probably changes things a big, giving NW the #1 overall seed, if they win out. Plus, I am not sure if you are noting this or not, but Gaffney will likely end up with a winning record, so all times who beat Gaffney will get another half point. All they have to do is beat clover and Fort Mill to achieve that, which seems very likely.

You are correct on both... I am showing Gaffney getting to a winning record and if I make the Virginia team a Big 16 with a winning record, that would shift Northwestern to the overall #1 seed... changing nothing else in my predictions.

[racincowboy02]

Im not trying to be a smart ass here when I say this but don't count on Gaffney doing anything right this year. We are 4-4 right now headed off of a bye week and into homecoming week with Clover coming to town. In the past I would say we would crush Clover but these are either the Indians that are dominate and should be undefeated and contending for a state title or we are the bad news bears and can't do anything right.

We have homecoming and our last home game of the year this week. Then we have to go to Fort Mill which has improved and play there on Halloween night of all nights. I dread that game and thank God I want be in town for that one. Halloween has not always been a good day to play on for Gaffney lol. The next week is @Northwestern and that if we win out could be for the Region Crown and Gaffney has the ability and the talent to win out yes but what teams shows up the bad news bears or the team that says I can beat anybody

[FootballFan4343]

Im not trying to be a smart ass here when I say this but don't count on Gaffney doing anything right this year. We are 4-4 right now headed off of a bye week and into homecoming week with Clover coming to town. In the past I would say we would crush Clover but these are either the Indians that are dominate and should be undefeated and contending for a state title or we are the bad news bears and can't do anything right.

We have homecoming and our last home game of the year this week. Then we have to go to Fort Mill which has improved and play there on Halloween night of all nights. I dread that game and thank God I want be in town for that one. Halloween has not always been a good day to play on for Gaffney lol. The next week is @Northwestern and that if we win out could be for the Region Crown and Gaffney has the ability and the talent to win out yes but what teams shows up the bad news bears or the team that says I can beat anybody

Ya'll may not do anything in the playoffs but you guys will crush Clover and then beat Fort Mill. Both teams are struggling mightily. Clover is just plain terrible. Now, Northwestern will be a tough task, but, worst case scenario you guys finish 4-2 in region and 6-5 overall. Which would be good enough for a 3 way tie for 2nd in the region with York and Nation Ford (I think you guys would end up getting the tiebreaker for 2nd in that situation).

[racincowboy02]

Depends on how the tie breaker goes down if its points maybe but if its head to head against York we win if its against Nation's Ford we loose that one so it just depends on how the tie breaker is done I think we play more Big 16 opponents than the other 2

Clover sucks from what I am hearing and they say Fort Mill has improved a little bit I don't know a whole lot about them so I am just goin on what I am hearing

Northwestern will be probably more than we can handle to be honest then again we may go into D3 with a chip on our shoulder and take the region crown from them

[hallmanac13]

What would the brackets look like if there is a 3-way tie in Region 2?

[FootballFan4343]

What would the brackets look like if there is a 3-way tie in Region 2?

Depending on who beat who, the most likely scenario is Byrnes, Spartanburg, and Boiling Springs all having one loss. Which, the first tiebreaker would be points, which would eliminate Boiling Springs, then the 2nd tiebreaker is head to head which Spartanburg takes. So the brackets would look pretty much the same way they do now. Dorman might be a little lower due to finishing 4th in the region, but the Cavs would still make the playoffs based on points. Bottom line, unless Spartanburg loses again, they will end up getting the top seed out of region 2 and the overall #1 seed in the D-2 playoffs. Also, from looking at things, if Northwestern wins out, looks like they are the #1 overall seed in D-1 as well. DF and Fort D can't catch them as long as Gaffney beats Fort Mill and Clover and Woodside wins one of their last 3 games.