Districts that have suspended summer workouts

[Penguin]

I gave you the DHEC numbers for the State of South Carolina for those in the 11 to 20 year old range. *0 plus percent of that age group would be in school. a 1000% increase in cases for that age group does not bode well for putting them in close proximity. If Social distancing can be arranged, managed, and enforced, then you have a different proposition. But also remember, schools do not JUST have students. There are teachers, administrators, Librarians, Lunchroom workers, janitors, police officers, coaches, and other essential personnel. All of these people must also be protected, and they will fit into a much higher risk category.

Do kids need to go to school? Of course they do. Do they need to be used as pawns fighting against Covid-19 and it's new twin? No. That's right, there is now a new variant of the virus that is more easily transmitted. Much more infectious. All of the current vaccine work may be for naught. The new virus has changed the protein spike.........precisely where all current vaccines are being targeted. It is my OPINION that the best way to combat this thing, is to close everything down, use proper hygiene, maintain social distancing, wear a mask at all times when outside of your home, and only allow essential businesses to stay open. Allow people out only to run essential errands. This will allow for a mass disinfection of places where the virus would normally collect, as well as containing any further spread by a substantial number. This would also give scientists time to test possible vaccines. But hey, like I said, just my OPINION. Believe it or not, we are on the same team here. We all want it gone or made irrelevant.

[cavaliereagle]

70%, roughly 200 million would have to "recover" from it. Those who die won't help with herd immunity. That is not an option that any sane person would consider as an option. At 5% mortality rate, which is where we are, that is 10 million deaths.

Not to jump back in this argument, but it is pretty common belief that we have at least 10 times the amount of cases as our "confirmed positives". So if thats the case, that means we currently have had (at least) 27,400,000 people in the US with the disease. When you divide that by the 127,000 deaths the death rate comes out to be .46%. Of course that is assuming that all 127,000 deaths are due to COVID-19. But we know that those numbers are skewed all over the place, depending on the hospital system. We have had reports, all over the country, of people dying from heart attacks having COVID listed as cause of death because they were found to be positive or have antibodies in their system.
Before anybody jumps on here and claims that doesn't happen, we all need to "get real". Hospitals are BIG BUSINESS. These businesses are struggling mightily and laying off nurses/staff all over the place due to "empty hospitals."
For some perspective, hospitals normally operate at 90% of capacity or so during this time of the year. South Carolina has roughly 14,000 acute hospital beds around the state, so that means most years we have over 12,600 in hospital beds during this time of the year. As of yesterday, we have roughly 7,100 in hospital beds and we are only operating a total of 11,000 beds (3,000 beds are "closed" due to staff reductions and furloughs). The reason this is important is due to the CARES Act, hospitals get a significant pay difference in a COVID death versus a heart attack. So hospitals which are literally struggling to pay their bills due to the huge decrease in patients, are listing COVID as cause of death if the person was found to have COVID or antibodies. Our nation has seen a huge decrease in heart attacks and strokes over the last 4 months. Do we really think that is happening? During one of the most stressful times of the last century, heart attacks and strokes are declining? Lets use common sense on this one.

At the end of the day, we can all quote stats all day to support our "bias". Penguin can state a 5% mortality rate, but ignore the fact that the same doctors state we have at least 10 times the amount of cases as we have confirmed. I then can counter that by talking about hospital beds to "downplay" the virus, so to speak.

The reality is this virus (just like any without a working vaccine) is dangerous. But, at the end of the day, we have to take precautions to prevent spread, but CANNOT lock down our world. As we continue to see, no matter how long we "lock down", as soon as we open up the virus spreads. This we know, as fact. Short of locking COMPLETELY down until we have a workable vaccine that 100% of the population will take (which we know will NEVER happen) then the virus will not be stopped and can only be slowed down.

Agreed! Also, lock downs will stop our bodies from building immunities to other things. Remember when sick people were the one's quarantined?

[Fortfor5]

70%, roughly 200 million would have to "recover" from it. Those who die won't help with herd immunity. That is not an option that any sane person would consider as an option. At 5% mortality rate, which is where we are, that is 10 million deaths.

Not to jump back in this argument, but it is pretty common belief that we have at least 10 times the amount of cases as our "confirmed positives". So if thats the case, that means we currently have had (at least) 27,400,000 people in the US with the disease. When you divide that by the 127,000 deaths the death rate comes out to be .46%. Of course that is assuming that all 127,000 deaths are due to COVID-19. But we know that those numbers are skewed all over the place, depending on the hospital system. We have had reports, all over the country, of people dying from heart attacks having COVID listed as cause of death because they were found to be positive or have antibodies in their system.
Before anybody jumps on here and claims that doesn't happen, we all need to "get real". Hospitals are BIG BUSINESS. These businesses are struggling mightily and laying off nurses/staff all over the place due to "empty hospitals."
For some perspective, hospitals normally operate at 90% of capacity or so during this time of the year. South Carolina has roughly 14,000 acute hospital beds around the state, so that means most years we have over 12,600 in hospital beds during this time of the year. As of yesterday, we have roughly 7,100 in hospital beds and we are only operating a total of 11,000 beds (3,000 beds are "closed" due to staff reductions and furloughs). The reason this is important is due to the CARES Act, hospitals get a significant pay difference in a COVID death versus a heart attack. So hospitals which are literally struggling to pay their bills due to the huge decrease in patients, are listing COVID as cause of death if the person was found to have COVID or antibodies. Our nation has seen a huge decrease in heart attacks and strokes over the last 4 months. Do we really think that is happening? During one of the most stressful times of the last century, heart attacks and strokes are declining? Lets use common sense on this one.

At the end of the day, we can all quote stats all day to support our "bias". Penguin can state a 5% mortality rate, but ignore the fact that the same doctors state we have at least 10 times the amount of cases as we have confirmed. I then can counter that by talking about hospital beds to "downplay" the virus, so to speak.

The reality is this virus (just like any without a working vaccine) is dangerous. But, at the end of the day, we have to take precautions to prevent spread, but CANNOT lock down our world. As we continue to see, no matter how long we "lock down", as soon as we open up the virus spreads. This we know, as fact. Short of locking COMPLETELY down until we have a workable vaccine that 100% of the population will take (which we know will NEVER happen) then the virus will not be stopped and can only be slowed down.

Agreed! Also, lock downs will stop our bodies from building immunities to other things. Remember when sick people were the one's quarantined?

Absolutely on both.

[Penguin]

How are you going to handle the new, second variant? A different protein spike that renders all current vaccine work useless against it? And this variant is more contagious, and is attacking younger people. Life as we once knew it, is long gone. Better start looking towards the future instead of longing for the past. Keep on resisting, Professor Darwin has this well under control. Ask Herman Cain........

[Fortfor5]

How are you going to handle the new, second variant? A different protein spike that renders all current vaccine work useless against it? And this variant is more contagious, and is attacking younger people. Life as we once knew it, is long gone. Better start looking towards the future instead of longing for the past. Keep on resisting, Professor Darwin has this well under control. Ask Ben Carson........

Live life mask wash hands open social distancing everything thing up.
Let chips fall where they may.

[Penguin]

How are you going to handle the new, second variant? A different protein spike that renders all current vaccine work useless against it? And this variant is more contagious, and is attacking younger people. Life as we once knew it, is long gone. Better start looking towards the future instead of longing for the past. Keep on resisting, Professor Darwin has this well under control. Ask Ben Carson........

Live life mask wash hands open social distancing everything thing up.
Let chips fall where they may.

Hold the presses...........check outside for flying pigs....................Think I saw a Unicorn..............but I have to admit that I agree 100% with what you just posted. People are going to have to learn some different ways. Stop resisting and start caring. And yes, then things will fall where they must. I am also extremely curious as to how crowds will be handled once live sporting events restart. I just don't see the return to shoulder to shoulder seating at an event. And that said, what does that mean for sponsors? For concession workers? For vendors? NASCAR may be one of the worst hit. College Football at major universities, where that revenue is counted upon for other sports. Times are going to change, the question is, how are we going to change with them?

[Fortfor5]

How are you going to handle the new, second variant? A different protein spike that renders all current vaccine work useless against it? And this variant is more contagious, and is attacking younger people. Life as we once knew it, is long gone. Better start looking towards the future instead of longing for the past. Keep on resisting, Professor Darwin has this well under control. Ask Ben Carson........

Live life mask wash hands open social distancing everything thing up.
Let chips fall where they may.

Hold the presses...........check outside for flying pigs....................Think I saw a Unicorn..............but I have to admit that I agree 100% with what you just posted. People are going to have to learn some different ways. Stop resisting and start caring. And yes, then things will fall where they must. I am also extremely curious as to how crowds will be handled once live sporting events restart. I just don't see the return to shoulder to shoulder seating at an event. And that said, what does that mean for sponsors? For concession workers? For vendors? NASCAR may be one of the worst hit. College Football at major universities, where that revenue is counted upon for other sports. Times are going to change, the question is, how are we going to change with them?

i agree. I wear a mask everywhere sanatize distance .
I dont have a problem with any precaution.
Im just not a proponet of a shut down.or fear of the virus.
You have to respect it.you have to respect others by wearing a mask .(those that have breathing difficulties cant)
Social distancing drives me nuts .people do not adhere to it.
Thats the problem.
2 to 3 k at football games max .
Web stream and charge a fee .have commercials or a screen withun a screen with sponsers surround the edges
Im wondering what Disney and tbe like are going to do.

[Damefan]

How are you going to handle the new, second variant? A different protein spike that renders all current vaccine work useless against it? And this variant is more contagious, and is attacking younger people. Life as we once knew it, is long gone. Better start looking towards the future instead of longing for the past. Keep on resisting, Professor Darwin has this well under control. Ask Ben Carson........

Live life mask wash hands open social distancing everything thing up.
Let chips fall where they may.

Hold the presses...........check outside for flying pigs....................Think I saw a Unicorn..............but I have to admit that I agree 100% with what you just posted. People are going to have to learn some different ways. Stop resisting and start caring. And yes, then things will fall where they must. I am also extremely curious as to how crowds will be handled once live sporting events restart. I just don't see the return to shoulder to shoulder seating at an event. And that said, what does that mean for sponsors? For concession workers? For vendors? NASCAR may be one of the worst hit. College Football at major universities, where that revenue is counted upon for other sports. Times are going to change, the question is, how are we going to change with them?

i agree. I wear a mask everywhere sanatize distance .
I dont have a problem with any precaution.
Im just not a proponet of a shut down.or fear of the virus.
You have to respect it.you have to respect others by wearing a mask .(those that have breathing difficulties cant)
Social distancing drives me nuts .people do not adhere to it.
Thats the problem.
2 to 3 k at football games max .
Web stream and charge a fee .have commercials or a screen withun a screen with sponsers surround the edges
Im wondering what Disney and tbe like are going to do.

I will let you know about Disney when I get back after Christmas. We leave for a week December 26th!!

[Onion Rings]

York County practicing and has been for a while

[Fortfor5]

How are you going to handle the new, second variant? A different protein spike that renders all current vaccine work useless against it? And this variant is more contagious, and is attacking younger people. Life as we once knew it, is long gone. Better start looking towards the future instead of longing for the past. Keep on resisting, Professor Darwin has this well under control. Ask Ben Carson........

Live life mask wash hands open social distancing everything thing up.
Let chips fall where they may.

Hold the presses...........check outside for flying pigs....................Think I saw a Unicorn..............but I have to admit that I agree 100% with what you just posted. People are going to have to learn some different ways. Stop resisting and start caring. And yes, then things will fall where they must. I am also extremely curious as to how crowds will be handled once live sporting events restart. I just don't see the return to shoulder to shoulder seating at an event. And that said, what does that mean for sponsors? For concession workers? For vendors? NASCAR may be one of the worst hit. College Football at major universities, where that revenue is counted upon for other sports. Times are going to change, the question is, how are we going to change with them?

i agree. I wear a mask everywhere sanatize distance .
I dont have a problem with any precaution.
Im just not a proponet of a shut down.or fear of the virus.
You have to respect it.you have to respect others by wearing a mask .(those that have breathing difficulties cant)
Social distancing drives me nuts .people do not adhere to it.
Thats the problem.
2 to 3 k at football games max .
Web stream and charge a fee .have commercials or a screen withun a screen with sponsers surround the edges
Im wondering what Disney and tbe like are going to do.

I will let you know about Disney when I get back after Christmas. We leave for a week December 26th!!

went that week a few years ago .with covid it wont be as busy.it was so crowded when we went the closed Magick kingdom ti all outside visitors unless you had a reservation
For lunch or dinner or stayed at the park.
There was a wreck on 95 in Virginia that had us backed up in Florida otw back .12 hours from orlando to charleston.
Mgm studios has a cart near the rocking Rollercoaster.
That makes a good cherry vodka lemonade.

I drank way to many .that and them damn turkey legs.
Not to mention them cuban gals in them miniskirts.