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[SHS Gamecock Fan]

Unlike some folks, I only comment on things that I know... thus, Spartanburg County.

Greenville, like Cherokee, has only one district so all the high schools are in that district.....

Appreciate that..sorta familiar with the upstate so it’s mainly the cola and lower state districts I’m curious about….why? Mikey’s mind Mikey’s mind..lol

Sumter has only 1 district with multiple public high schools. But there are school zones and the kids must attend the high school they are zoned for. Unless proper paperwork is submitted with reasoning why a kid should attend a school outside of their zone. Then the district will make a decision on whether to approve or not based on space and other factors.

[midstateguy]

Perhaps the high school league should go back to being the one that approves transfers as opposed to the schools doing this and maybe they should do the spot checks where they go out to schools randomly and check their athletic files. Doing away with those things has helped lead us to these questionable transfers.

[justaname]

Perhaps the high school league should go back to being the one that approves transfers as opposed to the schools doing this and maybe they should do the spot checks where they go out to schools randomly and check their athletic files. Doing away with those things has helped lead us to these questionable transfers.

CORRECT!

[Rebel-Fan-74]

Perhaps the high school league should go back to being the one that approves transfers as opposed to the schools doing this and maybe they should do the spot checks where they go out to schools randomly and check their athletic files. Doing away with those things has helped lead us to these questionable transfers.

OK, you do see the obvious flaw in your idea, right? You are using COMMON SENSE and the SC HSL in the same sentence!

But in all seriousness, isn't that what should be happening? If the transfer was approved PRIOR to the season or at the very least prior to the player getting on the field, then there wouldn't be situations where the entire team is punished for something they had no control over!

[Penguin]

In defense of all of the schools with "questionable" transfers, I submit that if Oceanside Collegiate, Gray Collegiate, Legion Collegiate, and any and all other such single purpose High Schools, can essentially "recruit" players from any school district that they wish, why should any other school have to play by different rules?

[bigdog2003]

In defense of all of the schools with "questionable" transfers, I submit that if Oceanside Collegiate, Gray Collegiate, Legion Collegiate, and any and all other such single purpose High Schools, can essentially "recruit" players from any school district that they wish, why should any other school have to play by different rules?

I've been pushing that for years now. Why are there two sets of rules for schools playing each other? These "charter" and private schools should be held to strict boundary lines like everybody else, OR they shouldn't be eligible to compete with schools that are.

In all seriousness, the SCHSL has no real power to do anything. If schools just decided to leave that joke of an organization and start their own, the SCHSL is powerless to stop them.

From their own purpose statement, posted on their website "promote uniformity of standards in all interscholastic athletic competition". So they are not even following their own purpose statement. To me, ALL means ALL. It doesn't mean ALL public high schools, while charter and private schools do their own thing. It means ALL schools either have boundaries in place and ALL schools play on a equal level, or you do away with it all together.

Look at 1A, in girl's volleyball, 3 of the last 4 in the upper state were private schools. In 2A volleyball, 3 of the last 4 in the state were private or charter schools. 1A girl's tennis, 3 of the last 4 were private schools, with both state finalist being private schools. The 1A upper state football bracket is a SCISA tournament. Christ Church and Southside Christian are the favorites to make the Upper State final, while Lewisville is the best real high school. What you are saying to these other schools is, you are playing for no better than 2nd place. These small town schools can have the best group of players coming through, only to face a de-facto AAU team in the playoffs.

[Penguin]

Any School with "open" attendance zones should not be allowed to compete with any School that does not.

[midstateguy]

2021-2022 State Champions through winter sports.
Boys basketball Girls
A-Scott’s Branch v Calhoun County Military Magnet v Denmark
AA Gray v York Prep Christ Church v AJ
AAA Blue Ridge v OW Keenan v Camden
AAAA Flora v Wilson Westside v NA
AAAAA Ridgeview v Fort D Rock Hill v Summerville

Wrestling
AA 96 v Timberland
AAA West Oak v Aynor
AAAA Eastside v May River
AAAAA Hillcrest v Ashley Ridge

Volleyball
A BE v Southside Christian
AA North Central v St. Joseph
AAA Wren v Oceanside Collegiate
AAAA Pickens v Aiken
AAAAA Dorman V River Bluff

Football
A BE v Southside Christian
AA Silver Bluff v Gray
AAA Daniel v Camden
AAAA South Pointe v Beaufort
AAAAA Dutch Fork v Gaffney

Girl’s Tennis
AA Christ Church v Phillip Simmons
AAA Chapman v Oceanside Collegiate
AAAA Lucy Beckham v Flora
AAAAA Carolina Forest v Riverside

Cheerleading
AAA Wren
AAAA Flora
AAAAA Chapin

Girls Swimming Boys Swimming
AAA Oceanside St. Josephs
AAAA Eastside Eastside
AAAAA Wando JL Mann


Girls Cross Country Boys Cross Country
AA Greer Middle College Charter AA Greer Middle College Charter
AAA Seneca Bishop England
AAAA James Island Eastside
AAAAA J.L. Mann Dorman

Girl’s Golf
AAA Chesnee
AAAA May River
AAAAA Blythewood

[Rebel-Fan-74]

I've been pushing that for years now. Why are there two sets of rules for schools playing each other? These "charter" and private schools should be held to strict boundary lines like everybody else, OR they shouldn't be eligible to compete with schools that are.

In all seriousness, the SCHSL has no real power to do anything. If schools just decided to leave that joke of an organization and start their own, the SCHSL is powerless to stop them.

From their own purpose statement, posted on their website "promote uniformity of standards in all interscholastic athletic competition". So they are not even following their own purpose statement. To me, ALL means ALL. It doesn't mean ALL public high schools, while charter and private schools do their own thing. It means ALL schools either have boundaries in place and ALL schools play on a equal level, or you do away with it all together.

Look at 1A, in girl's volleyball, 3 of the last 4 in the upper state were private schools. In 2A volleyball, 3 of the last 4 in the state were private or charter schools. 1A girl's tennis, 3 of the last 4 were private schools, with both state finalist being private schools. The 1A upper state football bracket is a SCISA tournament. Christ Church and Southside Christian are the favorites to make the Upper State final, while Lewisville is the best real high school. What you are saying to these other schools is, you are playing for no better than 2nd place. These small town schools can have the best group of players coming through, only to face a de-facto AAU team in the playoffs.

I agree with you on the unfairness of the competition, {even though I don't think any of the private schools are operating for a single purpose} they do have a clearly obvious advantage when it comes to athletics and this has to be addressed soon! This topic has been discussed rather passionately in the past and there doesn't seem to be a clear and easy fix.

Some of the ideas I've heard include:

Make them play at 5A. This doesn't really solve the problem, it just relocates the problem and furthermore and more importantly, it punishes teams like Academic Magnet that can't be competitive at 1A, so those kids wouldn't have an opportunity for athletics at all and when it comes down to it, that is what it should all be about, being fair to the students who want to participate in athletics.

Put in their own bracket just like the SCISA schools. The most obvious fix in my mind...

Have a Committee that evaluates where they should go based on recent history. A committee from the SC HSL is never the answer!

[mikey]

Perhaps the high school league should go back to being the one that approves transfers as opposed to the schools doing this and maybe they should do the spot checks where they go out to schools randomly and check their athletic files. Doing away with those things has helped lead us to these questionable transfers.

OK, you do see the obvious flaw in your idea, right? You are using COMMON SENSE and the SC HSL in the same sentence!

But in all seriousness, isn't that what should be happening? If the transfer was approved PRIOR to the season or at the very least prior to the player getting on the field, then there wouldn't be situations where the entire team is punished for something they had no control over!

All good points..my line was more along the ease and how often they occur when athletes are involved with in districts.

I personally think public HS should go to the Charter/ private concept. What we got doesn’t work for a lot more reasons than athletics..