Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
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Re: Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
In my opinion...taking a knee and running out the clock protects your players. Byrnes threw salt on an open wound. However I would still have had the players shake hands and I still would have told Coach Bentley what I thought about it and we would have had a conversation about it. Both teams should have handled the situation better. Sure its bad sportsmanship but I wouldn't call any of these programs classless. Its just a teaching and learning moment for both schools. These schools have championship athletic programs and they will be better because of this.
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I agree with this 100%. Regardless of what these coaches think, their primary job is to teach these kids sportsmanship. Both coaches have failed their players and parents. They should be ashamed of themselves.Penguin wrote:There is no place for it in High School sports......period.
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And coaches get fired year after year for having more losses than wins..... but great sportsmanship on their teams! Calling the timeout was no the right thing to do, but kicking both teams out of the playoffs is pure hogwash. If there was a fight, then yes, but there is no rule against scoring and there currently is no rule that would force Lexington to shake hands....Letsgetcocky wrote:I agree with this 100%. Regardless of what these coaches think, their primary job is to teach these kids sportsmanship. Both coaches have failed their players and parents. They should be ashamed of themselves.Penguin wrote: ...There is no place for it in High School sports......period.
Why not do away with playoffs, we don't want a team to have to lose!!!!!
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If this is the message that Byrnes is teaching their kids, then I am sure glad that my kid didn't go to Byrnes. This was worse than fighting, this was a direct attempt to incite a violent reaction.Rebel-Fan-74 wrote:And coaches get fired year after year for having more losses than wins..... but great sportsmanship on their teams! Calling the timeout was no the right thing to do, but kicking both teams out of the playoffs is pure hogwash. If there was a fight, then yes, but there is no rule against scoring and there currently is no rule that would force Lexington to shake hands....Letsgetcocky wrote:I agree with this 100%. Regardless of what these coaches think, their primary job is to teach these kids sportsmanship. Both coaches have failed their players and parents. They should be ashamed of themselves.Penguin wrote: ...There is no place for it in High School sports......period.
Why not do away with playoffs, we don't want a team to have to lose!!!!!
As I have said many times in the last 18 hours about this, both teams, both coaches, and every person involved in the decision to call the timeout, throw that scoring pass, AND in the decision to not shake hands, bears 100% of the responsibility. I feel sure that both teams are guilty of failing to follow both the Sportsman Creed, and the High School rules on Sportsmanship. It is those facts that I am using to suggest banning these teams from further playoff games until they learn how to act like responsible human beings.
There were two teams on that playing field, and the players were used as pawns by grown adults who chose to act like gradeschool bullies. I lost all respect that I had for both of these coaches, but the players were just doing as instructed. The fact that a grown man came out and admitted to trying to humiliate a group of teenage kids is beyond any realm of reasonable behavior, and deserves the severest of punishment available. He should be banned from ever coaching again, as he completely lost site of the moment, and treated the situation as if it were life and death. This was just a game. A game that was long since decided. I dare someone to try and defend such actions. If I were the parent of one of those kids from Lexington, I would be in jail because I would have not rested until I had a piece of that coaches rear end.
You can call me whatever you like, I could care less. But when grown adults go around trying to purposely humiliate a child, this fat *ssed SOB is gonna get between them.......you can write that on the rock. That is just the way that I am wired.
The "Godfather" didn't whine like The "Slobfather" is doing, when he got INDICTED!!!!!
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I don't think they should be kicked out of the playoffs. I don't even disagree with winning as an important part of job security. But that stunt was not about winning. It was pure gasconading and it has no place in HS sports.Rebel-Fan-74 wrote:And coaches get fired year after year for having more losses than wins..... but great sportsmanship on their teams! Calling the timeout was no the right thing to do, but kicking both teams out of the playoffs is pure hogwash. If there was a fight, then yes, but there is no rule against scoring and there currently is no rule that would force Lexington to shake hands....Letsgetcocky wrote:I agree with this 100%. Regardless of what these coaches think, their primary job is to teach these kids sportsmanship. Both coaches have failed their players and parents. They should be ashamed of themselves.Penguin wrote: ...There is no place for it in High School sports......period.
Why not do away with playoffs, we don't want a team to have to lose!!!!!
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Re: Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
Penguin wrote:If this is the message that Byrnes is teaching their kids, then I am sure glad that my kid didn't go to Byrnes. This was worse than fighting, this was a direct attempt to incite a violent reaction.Rebel-Fan-74 wrote:And coaches get fired year after year for having more losses than wins..... but great sportsmanship on their teams! Calling the timeout was no the right thing to do, but kicking both teams out of the playoffs is pure hogwash. If there was a fight, then yes, but there is no rule against scoring and there currently is no rule that would force Lexington to shake hands....Letsgetcocky wrote:I agree with this 100%. Regardless of what these coaches think, their primary job is to teach these kids sportsmanship. Both coaches have failed their players and parents. They should be ashamed of themselves.Penguin wrote: ...There is no place for it in High School sports......period.
Why not do away with playoffs, we don't want a team to have to lose!!!!!
As I have said many times in the last 18 hours about this, both teams, both coaches, and every person involved in the decision to call the timeout, throw that scoring pass, AND in the decision to not shake hands, bears 100% of the responsibility. I feel sure that both teams are guilty of failing to follow both the Sportsman Creed, and the High School rules on Sportsmanship. It is those facts that I am using to suggest banning these teams from further playoff games until they learn how to act like responsible human beings.
There were two teams on that playing field, and the players were used as pawns by grown adults who chose to act like gradeschool bullies. I lost all respect that I had for both of these coaches, but the players were just doing as instructed. The fact that a grown man came out and admitted to trying to humiliate a group of teenage kids is beyond any realm of reasonable behavior, and deserves the severest of punishment available. He should be banned from ever coaching again, as he completely lost site of the moment, and treated the situation as if it were life and death. This was just a game. A game that was long since decided. I dare someone to try and defend such actions. If I were the parent of one of those kids from Lexington, I would be in jail because I would have not rested until I had a piece of that coaches rear end.
You can call me whatever you like, I could care less. But when grown adults go around trying to purposely humiliate a child, this fat *ssed SOB is gonna get between them.......you can write that on the rock. That is just the way that I am wired.
And as I said "I THINK IT WAS WRONG TO CALL THE TIMEOUT" I guess you missed that... if we scored again before time ran out, then we scored again, but we should not have called the timeout. As for sportsmanship, how many times have we had coaches from all over the state screaming and yelling at the refs, cussing and throwing temper tantrums on the field, not just on the sidelines. Yet you don't seem to have a problem with that... you just seem to have a problem with Coach Bentley.
= I guess that you don't expect the same example from yourself you do from the coaches???Penguin wrote:"If I were the parent of one of those kids from Lexington, I would be in jail because I would have not rested until I had a piece of that coaches rear end."
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Re: Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
Yep Pengy you sure are showing the adult way to actPenguin wrote:If this is the message that Byrnes is teaching their kids, then I am sure glad that my kid didn't go to Byrnes. This was worse than fighting, this was a direct attempt to incite a violent reaction.Rebel-Fan-74 wrote:And coaches get fired year after year for having more losses than wins..... but great sportsmanship on their teams! Calling the timeout was no the right thing to do, but kicking both teams out of the playoffs is pure hogwash. If there was a fight, then yes, but there is no rule against scoring and there currently is no rule that would force Lexington to shake hands....Letsgetcocky wrote:I agree with this 100%. Regardless of what these coaches think, their primary job is to teach these kids sportsmanship. Both coaches have failed their players and parents. They should be ashamed of themselves.Penguin wrote: ...There is no place for it in High School sports......period.
Why not do away with playoffs, we don't want a team to have to lose!!!!!
As I have said many times in the last 18 hours about this, both teams, both coaches, and every person involved in the decision to call the timeout, throw that scoring pass, AND in the decision to not shake hands, bears 100% of the responsibility. I feel sure that both teams are guilty of failing to follow both the Sportsman Creed, and the High School rules on Sportsmanship. It is those facts that I am using to suggest banning these teams from further playoff games until they learn how to act like responsible human beings.
There were two teams on that playing field, and the players were used as pawns by grown adults who chose to act like gradeschool bullies. I lost all respect that I had for both of these coaches, but the players were just doing as instructed. The fact that a grown man came out and admitted to trying to humiliate a group of teenage kids is beyond any realm of reasonable behavior, and deserves the severest of punishment available. He should be banned from ever coaching again, as he completely lost site of the moment, and treated the situation as if it were life and death. This was just a game. A game that was long since decided. I dare someone to try and defend such actions. If I were the parent of one of those kids from Lexington, I would be in jail because I would have not rested until I had a piece of that coaches rear end.
You can call me whatever you like, I could care less. But when grown adults go around trying to purposely humiliate a child, this fat *ssed SOB is gonna get between them.......you can write that on the rock. That is just the way that I am wired.
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Re: Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
Indeed.
If I were the HSL I would address this with both coaches in private. At most put them on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION Nascar style!
If I were the HSL I would address this with both coaches in private. At most put them on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION Nascar style!
Re: Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
Did anyone else see what a blasphemous job Tom Caughlin did of coaching his team and protecting his players? He totally ignored the norm by not putting in his subs at the end to try and run up the score. Here is a list of his transgressions in a game where point differential DOES matter, money IS a factor, and player health IS important:
1-With 2:32 remaining in the game, after kicking a FG to take a 24-17 lead, he didn't order up an onside kick on the kickoff.
2-After getting the ball back on a turnover on downs by Washington at the 1:18 mark and the Redskins out of timeouts, he didn't insert his backups and continue to run their normal offense to gain them experience.
3-After getting the ball back with 1:18 seconds left, he did not call a timeout to map out a long pass play to try and run up the score.
4-And his most egregious error of all, after getting the ball back with just 1:18 seconds remaining, he ordered his offense to actually kneel down.........TWICE..........to just run out the clock and end the game.
What a putz.
1-With 2:32 remaining in the game, after kicking a FG to take a 24-17 lead, he didn't order up an onside kick on the kickoff.
2-After getting the ball back on a turnover on downs by Washington at the 1:18 mark and the Redskins out of timeouts, he didn't insert his backups and continue to run their normal offense to gain them experience.
3-After getting the ball back with 1:18 seconds left, he did not call a timeout to map out a long pass play to try and run up the score.
4-And his most egregious error of all, after getting the ball back with just 1:18 seconds remaining, he ordered his offense to actually kneel down.........TWICE..........to just run out the clock and end the game.
What a putz.
The "Godfather" didn't whine like The "Slobfather" is doing, when he got INDICTED!!!!!
Re: Lexington vs Byrnes (Both sides)
The time out wasn't to design a play to score on, our QB had just had a cheap shot taken on him after the Lexington player took his left foot & stuck it in our QB's face mask/ neck area & stood up with his weight on it. The TO was to make sure the QB was ok, so there is no reason for anyone to be upset about the TO, it was perfectly ok to call it & it should've been called & that was what he was talking about when he said he was protecting his players.
As for us scoring goes.... Real simple fellas, it was our 2nd string players playing against their 1st string players, they have every right to score if they can. If anyone wants to call it classless for him to allow those kids that have worked their butts off to score in a playoff game then by all means feel free to do so, IMO it would've been classless if he told them to not do what they have worked so hard to do all year long.
Again great job by Coach Bentley, staff, & players, I couldn't be more proud of them.
As for us scoring goes.... Real simple fellas, it was our 2nd string players playing against their 1st string players, they have every right to score if they can. If anyone wants to call it classless for him to allow those kids that have worked their butts off to score in a playoff game then by all means feel free to do so, IMO it would've been classless if he told them to not do what they have worked so hard to do all year long.
Again great job by Coach Bentley, staff, & players, I couldn't be more proud of them.
I dont give em hell, I just tell them the truth & they think its hell!