Hot Seats

[Rebel-Fan-74]

I certainly don’t see Greer opening up unless Young just decides he wants to retire. They aren’t going to fire him.

I agree with you, don't think they would fire him, they may "encourage" him to retire as the worst case scenario.

Blue Ridge could, but Shane Clark is still the AD and winning football doesn’t seem to be his strong suit. And then again, it is Greenville County where few seem to care. If they did you would see changes at Eastside, Wade Hampton, and a few other schools.

How long has it been since those schools had more than one good season in a row?

But on the other hand, in GC the football coach cannot be the AD. This shows you the level of importance the district places on football. That has, and will, take a lot of candidates off the table that could improve some of those situations

I think this is where the ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT for the entire county comes in to play. Spartanburg County is smaller than Greenville County, yet we have 7 districts. With one district, the rules can be very generalized. Having the Football coach as the AD might work at Blue Ridge, but not at Hillcrest, so the rule is good for one, but not the other.

[Noble Savage]

Am I mistaken but didn't Eastside have an OC a few years ago that was from a college in Illinois? He was supposed to be a guru, I think they even had two really good seasons? What happened to that guy? It was around the time McManus flopped at Spartanburg..

It's crazy all these years watching football I've seen Greenville , Mauldin, Hillcrest, Mann, Blue Ridge, Travelers Rest, Eastside,Riverside, even Wade Hampton...

But very few can remain competitive or keep coaches..is it purely a money thing.??

On paper Mauldin should not be bad at football? There's too many kids.

Then again I still dread the day Dorman actually hires a young guy who plays the way kids want to play...3000 students..man that's a sleeping giant.

[Rebel-Fan-74]

Then again I still dread the day Dorman actually hires a young guy who plays the way kids want to play...3000 students..man that's a sleeping giant.

I've said that for years.... Imagine if they got a coach like we did with Bobby Bentley, someone who motivates the players, goes full speed all the time... Dorman could make a run like our run in the 2000's

[ByrnesRebels05]

Then again I still dread the day Dorman actually hires a young guy who plays the way kids want to play...3000 students..man that's a sleeping giant.

I've said that for years.... Imagine if they got a coach like we did with Bobby Bentley, someone who motivates the players, goes full speed all the time... Dorman could make a run like our run in the 2000's

They may have him, I remember Bobby’s first two years.

[olguy73]

Am I mistaken but didn't Eastside have an OC a few years ago that was from a college in Illinois? He was supposed to be a guru, I think they even had two really good seasons? What happened to that guy? It was around the time McManus flopped at Spartanburg..

It's crazy all these years watching football I've seen Greenville , Mauldin, Hillcrest, Mann, Blue Ridge, Travelers Rest, Eastside,Riverside, even Wade Hampton...

But very few can remain competitive or keep coaches..is it purely a money thing.??

On paper Mauldin should not be bad at football? There's too many kids.

Then again I still dread the day Dorman actually hires a young guy who plays the way kids want to play...3000 students..man that's a sleeping giant.

I think the guy you are talking about from Eastside is now a head coach in Idaho. He sells an offensive system much like McManus does.

I have always wondered the same thing about large schools, if you have 2,000 plus students how can you not find at least 25-30 guys that want to be great at football as a nucleus? The rest of the roster would be role players/practice players. Wando (until Lucy Beckham) was always one of the largest schools but consistently average or below average in football. Is it coaching? Apathy from the community, district, admin in the building?

Money can be issue, but a lot of times coaches are not in for the money, just look up north in NC. Their coaches are vastly under paid but most of the great ones continue to plug along when they could possibly move south (we do see at least 1 or 2 NC guy leave state and grab a SC job, especially Horry County. Stipends for a HC in NC are less than most places in SC assistant stipends). I think the bigger issues with the schools you named in Greenville is that the HC is expected to be a classroom teacher whereas other places they can be an AD or other faculty where they do not have classroom responsibilities. The 8-4 environment and energy at schools is something that should not be overlooked when keeping or attracting a coach.

[Rebel-Fan-74]

Then again I still dread the day Dorman actually hires a young guy who plays the way kids want to play...3000 students..man that's a sleeping giant.

I've said that for years.... Imagine if they got a coach like we did with Bobby Bentley, someone who motivates the players, goes full speed all the time... Dorman could make a run like our run in the 2000's

They may have him, I remember Bobby’s first two years.

Yeah but Bobby's first two years were:
...totally lost feeder system from the junior high that was doing it's own thing
...total lack of excitement and support, folks were totally lost.

He put the little leagues and junior high schools all on the same program, he got the booster club active, and built from the ground up like it was when he played. When Bo left, the program was put in to the hand of someone who had no clue what to do with a PROGRAM, he thought you showed up August 1st and started practice.

[No Fly Zone]

Emerald kept it close this time, but they still couldn’t find a way to win.

I’ll be surprised if they win a game this season.

[GasHouseGorilla]

At what point do people start looking past the Head Coach to what might really be the problem. Most of these guys didn’t get hired by pulling a name out of a hat, they have experience and know the game. Again let me reiterate most of them. Take a look at the other sports in the athletic department. Is more than one program struggling. Is there adequate support from the administration? If these coaches are bad, maybe they should be firing ADs and principals for hiring them.

[olguy73]

At what point do people start looking past the Head Coach to what might really be the problem. Most of these guys didn’t get hired by pulling a name out of a hat, they have experience and know the game. Again let me reiterate most of them. Take a look at the other sports in the athletic department. Is more than one program struggling. Is there adequate support from the administration? If these coaches are bad, maybe they should be firing ADs and principals for hiring them.

Very valid point. The overall health of the school and athletic department is vital, but often times people do not hold the principal responsible for a bad hire per se. Principals are like coaches too, they have aspirations of climbing the ladder and sometimes you hire a bad assistant that needs to be pruned. I heard someone say, "a principal doesn't get promoted because their football team won" so many principals are hyper focused on what makes them more appealing for larger or district level jobs.

[Tiger84]

At what point do people start looking past the Head Coach to what might really be the problem. Most of these guys didn’t get hired by pulling a name out of a hat, they have experience and know the game. Again let me reiterate most of them. Take a look at the other sports in the athletic department. Is more than one program struggling. Is there adequate support from the administration? If these coaches are bad, maybe they should be firing ADs and principals for hiring them.

Very valid point. The overall health of the school and athletic department is vital, but often times people do not hold the principal responsible for a bad hire per se. Principals are like coaches too, they have aspirations of climbing the ladder and sometimes you hire a bad assistant that needs to be pruned. I heard someone say, "a principal doesn't get promoted because their football team won" so many principals are hyper focused on what makes them more appealing for larger or district level jobs.

With this in mind, add the Conway High Principal, AD and every assistant leftover from Coach Terry's staff to the Hot Seat List!